Comments on: Three injured in shooting outside Echo Park nightclub *

By: coolwhetto

coolwhetto — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:17:39 +0000

Just for the record, I’ve been a native in EP for decades, and bikers were never an obvious foe in the hood. EXP were too busy having shoot outs with other CHOLO gangs like Frog Town and 18st.

By: Dino Flintstone

Dino Flintstone — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:36:52 +0000

There’s no misunderstanding here. What I’ve said since the very beginning is simple; they have, and always have had a strong presence in EP and the surrounding areas and that them being around is nothing new. And they’ve co-existed (willingly and unwillingly) with the other street gangs.

By: IamJacksLiver

IamJacksLiver — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:37:41 +0000

No you simply misunderstood me dino that is all. I meant and am correct to say that any of those visitors in small numbers (biker gangs) have no local gang territory. When a gang goes and visits an area doesn’t make it their territory.

About the fbi, atf, ice, etc yada yada you are correct. I remember when they shot down the president of hells angels not too long ago and the mongols were at war with them. The feds and local police have been working together a lot since about the time bush was in office. You can’t even lay a fart now adays without the fbi knowing. ha ha. So kids if you’re gonna do crime do it big but what for if the feds are on everything now. Its better just to find yourself a legal way to make money.

By: Dino Flintstone

Dino Flintstone — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:02:27 +0000

IamJackSilver- You really don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t care how long you’ve lived in the area. I know for a fact that members of a certain “gang” frequent bars in Echo Park, Cypress Park, Highland Park, Lincoln Heights, etc. I have met, spoken extensively with, in some cases, some of them. It’s known to employees of those bars. This isn’t speculation or “second-hand stories.” And I’m not talking about “old Hispanic men who own motorcycles.” So while there may not be a “chapter” or a “clubhouse” IN Echo Park, they are certainly a presence. Also, you may not be aware that “they” don’t wear their colors anymore.

Also, as for your comments about the cops not necessarily knowing, etc; while in some cases, you are absolutely correct, I’d venture a guess they probably have a pretty good idea in this case since, the Feds (ATF) have infiltrated this particular group twice in the past 12 years.

By: NutsEdge

NutsEdge — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:19:23 +0000

Could someone please explain to me what a hipster is? Does this term have any meaning anymore?

By: IamJacksLiver

IamJacksLiver — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:31:58 +0000

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/local/3-wounded-drive-by-at-nightclub-20100621 according to this he was a Hell’s Angels member??? So who is really telling the truth who knows? Maybe somebodys trying to cover up for the guy? Oh and about police knowing better that is not always the case. As they tend to assume or go from word of mouth of other people. They just gather whatever information they can and spit out an interview to the media. Its in their interest to make everything look all nice and safe but then that is their job I guess.

By: dmax

dmax — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:40:48 +0000

ANYTHING is possible. It is up to the cops now. There were around 30 people out there, there are 30 different perspectives, 30 recollections told through a haze of fight or flight, and burnt up adrenaline. The truth remains to be seen. We should be open to all possibilities

By: PTP FAN

PTP FAN — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:32:20 +0000

I think it is smart to believe the Rampart Police Dept. and the Detectives on this case over anyone else, if they say there are biker gangs that work with street gangs in the Echo Park area, I think they know what they are talking about. And, regardless if it is their “turf” or not, they will enter the area without their “colors” on and carry out violence.

By: IamJacksLiver

IamJacksLiver — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:56:05 +0000

I’ll say it again there are no motorcyle gangs in the echo park area with turf. If a few old mostly old hispanic bikers happen to live in the area is a different story. For those few that do they tend to have family in the area. None of the local gangs share turf with any so called biker gangs. Not with the mongols not the angels or anyone else. For your information The Mongols have the green light from any southside hood to be shot down on site. There’s a lil trivia for you about gangs. So you can try and change it to east la or whatever but I specifically said “Echo Park Area” ;) thank you very much. As a 26 year resident I know what I’m talking about. So you can do all the phony research you like! That there are people with motorcycles of course they’re everywhere, duh that is a given. LOL. The fact of the matter is there is a lot of people who talk just to lend their opinion and don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. They’re mostly just going off of speculation and speaking out their ass like a poster ^ there. As for the event that took place, I wasn’t there so I wouldn’t know but anytime something is in a public forum of sorts its open up for discussion.

By: Dino Flintstone

Dino Flintstone — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:44:01 +0000

IamJackSilver- didn’t even notice the poster after you had written this: “According to Police there are several biker gangs in Southern California and Echo Park is not immune to their violence. Some work with street gangs to establish territory. ”

Class dismissed.