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  • Echo Park bungalow gets de-stuccoed

    Monday, May 2, 2011

    Before .... | Photo by Alexandra Beckett

    After de-stucco | Photo by Charmaine David

    Several months ago workers were busy scraping a layer of stucco that had covered the wood siding of an Echo Park bungalow being renovated by house flipper and designer Alexandra Becket and Greg Steinberg of ModOp Design. With the stucco removed and the siding repaired as part of a major overhaul, the 89-year-old house in the 2200 block of Reservoir Street went up for sale at $749,000 (the price includes a separate, rear apartment). Not many old house owners are willing to spend the time and effort to “de-stucco” their houses to bring back some of the original features. Steinberg, in an interview with the Take Sunset blog, describes some of the costs involved:

    One of the biggest expenses in construction are the dump fees and stucco weighs a lot so that added up in terms of cost. In addition, most remodelers use composite siding in order to match the original. In the many places where it needed to be repaired, we used redwood siding to match the original from 1923, which was an additional cost.

    Now, the question is how much of a de-stucco premium is a buyer willing to pay for this property.

    Related post:
    2220 Reservoir Street in Echo Park. Take Sunset

    { 24 comments… read them below or add one }

    Gabriele May 2, 2011 at 11:47 am

    With the old stucco exterior, all the interior work would still make it only a nicely upgraded house. With the siding restored, it’s transformed. The work done will take this house from affordable to very desirable.
    I’ve only driven in the area so I don’t know what the housing values are but for once, you can see where the money went, and where the value will stay. Can’t afford it, like my own neighborhood, but this is a charming place.
    Separate meters for utilities which is very good if owners want to rent…I’m sure they’d have few problems finding a tenant (if they didn’t want too much for it).
    There’s a similar house up the street from where I live and they went the stucco route–I regret their choice everytime I walk past it. A neighbor had theirs stuccoed and recommened the owner have this place stuccoed—a beautiful, large craftsman–architect worked for Green & Green…some people have either no taste or no sense of style or history.
    ModOp, thank you for remembering style AND history.

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    wow May 2, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    so pretty.

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    Lauren May 2, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    WOW. Yes yes yes a million times yes!!

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    Lauren May 2, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    I also just noticed in one of the photos of the ModOp link that the front windows USED to be much bigger prior the terrible stucco-ification. See here–

    http://takesunset.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2220-Reservoir-St-stucco-removal-640×480.jpg

    It’s blatantly obvious where they re-framed the hole for the smaller sliding windows. Though I’m sure the originals were pretty beat, it makes me wonder HOW bad they were and if they were salvageable!

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    Alexandra May 2, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Good eye Lauren! The original 1922 windows were long gone when we acquired the house. We took out aluminum windows and replaced them with wood framed dual paned windows.

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    sandy z January 12, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    I am un stuccalowing a craftsman in west adams. its a long process but will be well worth it. I can only do the front right now as lower 18 inches of redwood siding has been removed from the sides of the house. Until I can find replacement, side stucco stays. And we call these homes a much harsher word than stuck-o :)

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    bingo bart May 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    finally the evil goo is coming down.

    LA is such a beautiful city and the nightmare of stucco has been used by cheap landlords and slum owners for decades as a way to avoid making life better.

    may all the urban blight of the City of Angels vanish and the true riches be exposed.

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    anon May 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Is stucco used to prevent termites? Hide termite damage? What is its function that makes it so popular here?

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    sandy z January 12, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    one of my neighbors said she did it for insulation

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    Will Campbell May 2, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    This is so absolutely fantastic, it’s enough to make me not thinking unkindly of flippers.

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    Carc May 2, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Wood siding in general just doesn’t perform very well in our climate – when blasted by 300 days of sun each year the paint lasts 5 years at best – especially when painted a deeper shade – and after too many coats you are stuck grinding it all off. Then dry rot and termites anywhere the water gets past the paint. Looks nice though!…

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    carol May 2, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Wow – it is beautiful. ModOp, you guys rock! One thing though, why didn’t you put in more appropriate light fixtures. All that recessed lighting is so not craftsman.

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    Kevin May 3, 2011 at 3:26 am

    Carc,

    My 1887 wood-sided house is doing just fine, thanks.

    You know what doesn’t perform well in our climate? Neglect.

    To answer anon, people apply stucco because they think it requires less maintenance and because they think that after doing so, others will mistake it for a new home.

    Quite simply, they don’t know any better.

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    SolanoCanyonPop May 3, 2011 at 8:21 am

    What a clear difference. If that was its original look from the 1920s, god strike down the fool who stuccoed it like that!

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    Vicky May 3, 2011 at 9:48 am

    We’ve been wanting to de-stucco our craftsman house in the canyon, too! Great job, guys!

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    bb May 3, 2011 at 10:19 am

    a trillion times better !

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    CW May 3, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Beautiful!!! I’d be all over it if I had a down payment saved up! :-)

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    db May 4, 2011 at 7:29 am

    anon-

    stucco is used mainly because it’s cheap and requires less skill and time to install.

    What most do not realize is that stucco is NOT waterproof. It absorbs and holds moisture and when not installed correctly will cause more damage than good, promoting temite problems.

    As for HPOZ’s. they are only enforcable when the work is done under a permit. And if you want to report a bldg code viloation to LADBS you must leave your name and address or the violation will not be looked into, a big detterment to a lot of people on this side of town.

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    fxdp May 4, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Believe it or not, there are many folks who look at stucco as an upgrade. I’ve talked to a few, one of whom was trying to convince me to stucco my place! This person was adamant that stucco would make my house look better. There’s simply no accounting for taste.

    I think it’s a bit of a stretch to assert that “…the nightmare of stucco has been used by cheap landlords and slum owners for decades as a way to avoid making life better.” Really, I doubt that’s anyone’s motive. More likely, their motive was the opposite, with a budget they could afford.

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    Eric Gonzalez May 4, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Halleluiah! Now lets hope that this trend continues to blast its way across many older LA Neighborhoods where this nasty, unsightly trend blighted the landscape and scarred many an architecturally wonderful home from the 70′s through the early 90′s.
    Good Riddance!

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    daisyT May 4, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    As long as we’re on the no-accounting-for-taste “upgrade” discussion, can someone please explain the appeal of those cinder block fences with metal bars and lion (or fruitbasket) medallions on them? GAWDAWFUL. And proliferating in my neighborhood. UGH.

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    chad May 6, 2011 at 10:24 am

    daisyT-

    There is a word for that from urbandictionary.com

    UPTARD
    (verb)- the act of making something worse in an inept attempt to make it better, usually by adding unnecessary, useless, and/or ridiculous elements

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uptard

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    jeffro May 7, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    that is a beautiful renovation. thank you for not short-cutting it.

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    Cheryl January 11, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Simply beautiful. Kudos and Thank You from all of us who appreciate beautiful things. (Now I know why those stucco houses don’t look quite right – they weren’t meant to have stucco!)

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