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Sunday, September 21, 2014

Homeless man killed in Angeleno Heights*

Police tape across shopping cart used by homeless residents living near murder scene.

Police this afternoon were investigating the murder of a man who was apparently bludgeoned to death next to the side of the freeway in Angeleno Heights. Officers were called at about 12:30 p.m. when residents who were walking into a nearby pedestrian tunnel underneath the 101 Freeway heard a scuffle taking place in the bushes, said Homicide Detective John Motto with the Rampart Division. The body of the man was found in the bushes near Bellevue Avenue and West Edgeware Road and appeared to have suffered blunt force trauma, but a coroner has not yet examined the body, Motto said. The identify of the victim remains unknown but he is believed to be one of several transients who live along the bushes that run along the freeway, Motto said.

Officers were trying to interview some of the other people who lived by the freeway to get more detail about the victim and homicide. Anyone with information about the killing should call Motto at 213-484-3641.

* Update:  The victim was punched several times and bludgeoned with a wooden log by another man during an argument, according to a posting on the Rampart Division Facebook page.  He died from  his injuries.  The murder suspect remains at large.

47 comments

  1. Thank you Eastsider for quickly reporting important local news. You guys are on top of it.

    Horrifying news, and I believe I know who it was from the looks of the cart. He was down on Sunset this a.m. when I went to school. Pour soul stuck in the cycle of homelessness and dependency. But why would anyone want to kill him? Hope they are able to figure this one out.

  2. that is terrible. i hope the police find the killer.

  3. This is very sad. If anyone else isn’t feeling safe in that neighborhood I urge you to contact our local councilmans office. They are aware of the issues on that block(homeless camps, vandalism, break-ins, trash dumping etc..)

    http://cd1.lacity.org/cd1ci1.htm

    • Ahts Residents we need to get it together!

      Mike, I can assure you many of us are concerned. Unfortunately there’s not alot of interest among the residents to participate in even something as simple as a Neighborhood Watch. Everyone is apparently too busy and doesn’t want to engage in a subject as un-fun as security. How long can we look the other way? This is the 3rd murder this year, correct?

      The councilman’s office is eager to organize work parties to pick up trash and paint over graffitti, which is super appreciated. However, I’ve found them useless on any subject that involves more than a paint roller and a trash bin. The police blame us for being aloof and not wanting to participate, and they are right.

      One neighbor recently told of how they turned Ahts around in the 90’s by organizing phone trees among the residents. When 3 or more call regarding suspicious activity, the police will actually respond. Get to know your neighbors and organize a call tree. If you can’t stand socializing with anyone, get Select Patrol and they will come out (maybe) and run ‘em off.

    • i don’t feel like the threat is “homelessness.” there are some bad seeds in our midst and perhaps the homeless are an easy target. this is the 3rd or 4th killing of a homeless individual in Echo Park; that I can recall in the last few years. None of these people were killed by other homeless people.

      i think this is a tragedy; was driven home hard when I saw the coroners van out there today. Just because someone lives on the fringes of society, I don’t feel that they should be denied any of the rights or respect that more mainstream citizens command. For the record, I am not accusing Mike of anything. Just in a pensive frame of mind.

      • michael,
        While “homelessness” is not a threat in itself, the homeless often are. The desperate nature of merely being homeless often brings with it crime such as this. People are animals and sometimes they act a little wild. Especially when they are desperate to have a need met.

        • People act like animals is how callously they treat our homeless people.

          Beating up on homeless people and constantly rousting them and keeping them on the run, throwing them in jail for being homeless, is hardly the solution.

        • i work with the homeless. they are no more or less violent than other members of our society. As I mentioned before, the other members of homeless people in EP were not committed by homeless individuals. This is typical across the city; the homeless are often victimized due to their low status. People view them as a scourge and blame them for all sorts of things, they are viewed as somehow less human than the rest of us. Most of the homeless people I know are getting by through recycling and begging change (not beating people up for kicks or robbing people). Over the course of my career I have been on the receiving end of a violent act once: it was not committed by a homeless individual, it was committed by a mentally ill individual who I encountered on the street. I feel safe around 99% of the homeless people I encounter. I have kids, so if I thought being around the homeless was a danger, I would find a new job.

      • I was in no way saying that this person had it coming. It is such a terrible thing that this happened. I was just trying to convey that if the neighborhood worked with the city things like this could (maybe…) be prevented. Something needs to happen because the crime in this neighborhood is definitely on the rise and I personally feel that all of the things I talked about in my previous post are contributing to this.

        • You didn’t come across as intolerant at all in your original post; you just seem like a guy who’s concerned about his neighborhood. Nothing wrong with that.

    • For years residents on bellvue have asked for upgraded street lighting. Coucilman REYes has not listened. The street is dark a haven for homeless encampments drunks junkies now dead people. How many yrs can community complain an not get hurt.

  4. Thanks Eastsider for reporting this. I saw the coroner van there this afternoon. Very sad.
    @ Ahts Mom,
    The Angelino Heights Yahoo Group was formed to combat crime, mainly gang activity, we used to have meetings all the time, usually at someone’s house and sometimes at the Old Fire Station. And representatives from Rampart sometimes attended as well. All that is needed to organize a meeting is to find a place to have it and then post it to the Yahoo Group, also flyers in people’s mail boxes doesn’t hurt either.
    People will show up. Most of the same people that went to those meetings in the past still live here.

  5. Ahts mom- We’re still relatively new to Angelino Heights (two years) and have been looking for a way to get more involved, but have had trouble making contact since it all seems to be word of mouth. A yahoo group would be a great idea!

  6. rest in peace GRANDE.

  7. @SQ…..EPIA, http://www.epia-echopark.org/

    come to meetings.

  8. FYI, if you want the homeless living infront of your house, peeing on the walls, crapping on your lawn, having sex in the bushes, getting drunk, and/or smoking dope, then that’s your decision to place your family in danger! You and the ACLU can move to your own little corner of the city and take care of the “poor” homeless. I don’t want to hear you or your family cry like a bunch of babies after that doesn’t work out well for you. Further, I use homeless loosely! It is not your or my responsibility to baby sit anyone who had the same opertunity to live life in a way that would have prevented thier situation! I could have became a drunk, but I didn’t! I could have became a druggy, but I didn’t! I could have made poor financial decisions, but I didn’t! I also could have went to jail countless times for commiting crimes and caused my family to turn thier backs on me, but again I didn’t! The homeless are not my responsibility, but unfortunately they are my problem as the City of Los Angeles too! I encourage the police to arrest them, and get them the hell out of our neighborhood! By the way, where does it say the guy wasn’t killed by another homeless guy?

    • T avoided a lot of poor decisions in life, and bravo for that. Too bad intolerance wasn’t one of them.

      • I don’t tolerate stupidity! This country has gone to shit because we tolerate this crap!

        • T doesn’t tolerate ignorance yet ironically espouses a misinformed “solution” that criminalizes homelessness and deploys our stretched-thin police resources to arrest and forceably relocate them anyplace else where they’re not impacting T’s quality of life.

          • Hey Gumball, I’m all for “criticizing” people for their opinions but this is where you would be better served by presenting a viable solution. You are no better than T in my eyes. He is complaining about the homeless while you are complaining about him… all a waste of time otherwise.

          • Very good point Beanteam — reinforced by you complaining about me complaining about him and also not offering a viable alternative. I can see how someone such as yourself would lump T’s fascistic, hate-filled rant with me calling BS on it and consider it all a waste of time.

        • Yeah thanks to republicans.

    • Actually, there was a homeless guy who set up camp on the sidewalk a few doors down from me a little while back. He actually cleaned up the area, which the nursing home there never did (it was the backside), had always left it a mess. He was an actual asset despite being homeless.

      He didn’t bother anyone, kept things clean, had a little pup tent, minded his own business. When I would walk by, I would say hi, and he would respond in kind nicely.

      But the intolerant neighbors had him kicked out anyway. So, perhaps he showed up on a sidewalk near you, T.

      Hey, they are homeless — where do you expect them to go? You don’t feel sorry for them? Well, no one asked to give them anything — but you say throw them in jail for being homeless?!

      Being homeless is not a crime. Being homeless does not mean you commit crimes. Being homeless does not mean you are a danger. Yes, some people who commit crimes, or even are dangerous, or who are mentally ill are homeless. That doesn’t make all homeless people criminals or dangerous.

      I know people who rush to the phone to call the police if they should blunder into a homeless camp in the hinterlands of Elysian Park — well, if you kick them out of the park, they will have to show up on the sidewalk in front of your home.

      I know people who call the police if they see someone getting recyclables out of the garbage can. Well, would you rather they go rob someone instead?

      If your attitude is to just beat up on homeless people because they are homeless – – well, that make YOU the problem.

    • How tolerant of you, T.

      Have you ever thought that perhaps there are other outside forces that could possibly cause homelessness, and that it is not always entirely within a person’s control or their own fault that they become homeless?

      I hope you never end up homeless or in a desperate situation and on the receiving end of such vitriol, and that there are compassionate people that would lend you a helping hand.

      • I actually wish we could do that case study to prove you completely wrong! I would love to show you how to bring yourself up from the ashes with determination, hard work, and enthusiasm. Write those words down. I make my own fortune, I don’t need anyone to give me hand outs.

        • there are countless studies that show how deficits in education, environment, absent role models, etc… can have detrimental effects. these effects can lead to risky behaviors such as drugs, alcoholism, mental illness, homelessness, etc… these problems are then exacerbated by putting the onus on the individual (versus the society which has institutionalized racism, pandemic poverty, and countless other contributing ills). the problem needs to be tackled on a multitude of fronts: within the individual and at a societal level. the thought of arresting people merely because they are homeless and aesthetically unpleasant is disturbing. these people need help, not paranoid delusions of the impact they are having on our own lives.

    • T you just described all The drunks that pour out of the echo an all other bars on sunset. Coulda shoulda woulda maybe u started out life in a better situation that Grande didnt have. things not of his making. There s lot of if.
      Do not lose sight there is now a decreased man who has family left grieving. try to find some compassion inside you. Namaste

  9. I’m not sure if T’s post is meant to be satirical, but here goes with a reminder. Many working poor/minimum wage families are one paycheck away from homelessness. The high cost of healthcare means an illness in the family can put them on the streets. Lack of adequate healthcare or education in childhood can render an adult ill-equipped to handle many life situations. Poor life choices are not always the cause of homelessness. Lack of family support as a safety net, or untreated mental illness is a common reason people end up on the streets. Many women are on the streets as an alternative to suffering abuse at the hands of their partners. I could go on, but if you are serious I’m pretty sure I will not disavow you of the notion that all Americans have equal opportunities.

  10. R.I.P he was such a great man very respectful.. why would anyone do such a horrible act..I hope they put in jail who ever did this. What will be of his remains…. Heaven has an angel

  11. I’m not trying to be critical of any one here! I’m just saying that if you want to pay with the hard earned money you make to try and fix an unfixable problem be my guest. Don’t force me an my family to pay with tax dollars to try and help the “poor” unfortunate “homeless”. I know that this middle class hard working citizen is tired of the attitude, “Help everyone”! FYI, the middle class no longer has the money to support low income housing, food stamps “general relief”, and any other hand out programs that the “middle class” essentially pay for! News flash for anyone out there, the middle class is broke! So, I eould rather spend my tax dollars on arresting the “homeless” then giving them a hand out. And I place “homeless” in quotes because I talking about the chronically homeless that have been that way for a long time due to my previous post. I know plenty of people who lost thier government jobs working, and busted thier asses to find another job.

    • T,
      Have some respect for this man who just passed away and take your ramblings elsewhere. This is about a human being loosing his life not your politics. If you really are the great guy you are supposing to be, then bow out of this argument and let the this gentleman go in peace.

  12. T, middle class tax dollars would go toward arresting, deporting, whatevering the homeless via the Police Force. Tax payers pay for the three squares in prison, pay for the buses, pay for the Emergency Rooms, etc. The more you take away and the more brutal rules you make, the more you lose anyway in enforcing them. This person did not get murdered while mooching off the tax payer. He was on the streets, not in a shelter. I used to live by the parking lot by the Guadalupe Market from 2006-2011. In 2006 the lot always had homeless in it, and it was actually safer then than in 2008-11 when it was filled with drunk creeps starting fights and tailgating every night. In pure self-interest terms we should all be concerned that there is one or multiple psychopaths out there brutally killing people, and getting away with it only because of their victims’ low social status. Human life is human life, and regardless of whatever social Darwinist nonsense you believe in, having a murderer walking around your neighborhood unchecked is no good for anyone.

    • T,
      From your previous statements I’m having a hard time believing you’re from Los Angeles if you really think the LAPD has the time or resources to jail homeless people. I’m also wondering why you would even live in and area like this if homelessness bothers you so much. You sound ignorant, selfish, and from out of town. If you’re really bothered by homelessness, you should move to a suburb or something. You will have a hard time fitting into a neighborhood like this being so closed minded. You are a perfect example of the pompous scum moving in, thinking they should have their way.

  13. A suspect in this homicide has been arrested. The detectives’ investigation resulted in a named suspect, Reginald Rivers, 34, being identified. Yesterday, October 4, 2012, at 7:10 pm, Central Patrol Division officers arrested Rivers without incident at Grand Ave. and Cesar E. Chavez Ave. Information had been received that Rivers frequented several areas near the Hollywood Freeway. He was booked at the Metropolitan Detention Center for murder, with bail set at $1 million.

    The victim has been tentatively identified, however finding next of kin, per the detectives and the Los Angeles County Coroner, has been difficult. The victim is a male Hispanic in his mid-40’s. If anyone has information which may lead to a notification of relatives, they are asked to call the Rampart Watch Commander at (213) 484-3400, the Coroner’s office at (323) 343-0714, or e-mail me.

    Wes
    25214@lapd.lacity.org
    (213) 484-3400

  14. I was shocked when I heard the news! I grew up knowing him. May he rest in peace and the perso who did it judment awaits you.

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