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Saturday, November 22, 2014

Silver Lake street loses traffic lanes after being put on a “road diet” *

The detour signs, construction workers and traffic barriers were gone from Rowena Avenue in Silver Lake today after the fourth phase of a months-long  LADWP water pipeline construction project was completed. But there was something else missing: two traffic lanes.  Without much fanfare, Rowena Avenue was put on what’s called a “Road Diet,”  with the former four-lane street reduced down to one traffic lane in each direction and a middle turning lane between Hyperion Avenue and Glendale Boulevard.  While motorists lost a lane in each direction, cyclists gained bike lanes.

The idea behind a slimmer, trimmer Rowena is to reduce speeding traffic and create a safer environment for pedestrians and cyclists, according to proponents of the road diet, who raised the idea before the Silver Lake Neighborhood Council.  In December 2011, Councilman Tom LaBonge requested a road diet study be conducted by the Department of Transportation.

LaBonge spokesman Scott Levin said the road diet will be tested for 90 days and then adjustments will be made if needed. A “road diet” celebration is in the works, he said.

“It doesn’t take much paint to make a big difference,”  LaBonge said said in a statement. “Rowena Avenue is now a better street.”
 It’s not clear how motorists will react to the loss of traffic lanes. But Michael Pizzutillo, studio manager of the Pilates Body Shop, is one of the Rowena store owners and employees who are just happy to see the street return to normal. Construction and lane closures backed up traffic and prevented customers from turning left into and out of their parking lot.  The back up left instructors late for class and customers griping about traffic.

“No one has actually complained today,” he said this afternoon.  “Hopefully it’s smooth sailing from here on out.”

A four-lane Rowena in 2011 before road diet/Google Maps

* Update: LaBonge will host a celebration of the new Rowena bike lanes and road diet at the at the Fire Station No. 56, 2759 Rowena Ave., on Friday, March 15 at 8 a.m.



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104 comments

  1. Excellent news! A safety upgrade was much needed on this stretch.

  2. Excellent news! A safety upgrade was much needed on this stretch.

    • This is bullshit. I have to travel that every time I go to the freeway — and now I will have to be stuck behind a line of traffic or right turners and left turners and people trolling at 10 mph looking for a parking space. Not to mention any time I need to go to the CVS or Ralphs at Glendale and Fletcher.

      This is not some irrelevant local street, it is a main thoroughfare. Just because you might live east of Glendale Boulevard doesn’t mean we who live West of Glendale and in the Hyperion corridor don’t matter! There is a mob of traffic going through there every day at rush hour — it has to, to get to the freeway, there is no other route other than down a residential street — which might not be a bad idea now in order to avoid the backup that is unavoidable on Rowena.

      This was being discussed, and with a LOT of opposition. When they hell did this get decided all of a sudden and out of people’s view?

      And “road diet” is an offensive term, designed to be dishonest. Dishonesty has been the hallmark of this all along. This wacko biker group that has zeroed in on Silver Lake is a bunch of crazy dictatorial nazis in their attitudes.

      I have yet to see more than a rare, occasional person on a bike anyplace where bike lanes or road diets have been put in — despite false assertions to the contrary.

      In another location, they out of no where suddenly put in a road diet on Santa Monica Boulevard from Sunset to Virgil. I go down that route ALL the time, and I have never in all the years I have been here seen a bicyclist there, and since that “road diet” has gone in, I still have never seen a bicyclist there.

      This small contingent of overly zealous, overly loud and dictatorial bikers here is lying through their teeth about people wanting this. If people really wanted this, they would be using it. Build-it-and-they-will-come is fantasyland — they are not coming, and will not.

      This is bullshit!

      • First of all, Mark, it won’t effect the Freeway speeds when you go to CVS because the two lanes begin at Lakewood. Obviously from your screed you haven’t been on the street at all since its transformation to a safer road. You will not be stuck behind left turning traffic, because there is a dedicated left turn lane the same with right turning traffic. The road conversion is only for 1/2 mile, so stop whining. This is a residential zone. It’s not for motorist to speed like their on the 2 or 5. I was just on it and it runs smoother than it has in years. By the way I saw4 people on bikes, one on a skateboard and another on a motorized scooter using the new bike lanes.

        So if you don’t like it, stay on the freeway or find another route. We won’t miss your car on Rowena.

        • Obviously you think I don’t have to drive down that stretch in order to get to CVS. Your screed shows you didn’t read very closely. Of course I do. And I do not drive there at freeway speed — I drive the speed limit — your accusation is offensive, accusatory, defaming and repugnant.

          That half mile you suggest is irrelevant is a heavily used half mile. It is no more irrelevant than the section east of Glendale Boulevard — not if you are among the people who live west of it. If you consider it so irrelevant, they why do you care to do anything there? If its irrelevant, than it should be irrelevant to you.

          It is NOT a residential zone –it is a commercial zone. That happens to be why all those businesses and restaurants are along there. Perhaps you haven’t been down there is the past 50 years since businesses have been there. And regardless, it still is the ONLY route to the freeway for we people west of Glendale Boulevard, and all the commuters who take that route, which makes for some pretty heavy traffic at rush hour. this is not some side street in a residential neighborhood.

      • Mark, if you don’t like cutting through the neighborhood, please use Riverside, Los Feliz, or Fletcher. There are entrances to the 5 off all of those streets. People have been hit by cars and killed hundreds of feet from my home.

        Also, your comment about getting stuck behind left turning people is nonsense. If you’re not sure why, take a look at the street you’re talking about.

        • Robert, I can’t get to Riverside other than to go along Rowena to get there! That’s the point. That’s where the freeway entrance is. There is no other route. What would be accomplished to go all the way to Fletcher — I still have to go through that area of Rowena to get there, but you are sending me one further entrance down the road, with no benefit.

          I know the routes heres — I’ve been here 40 years. That is the only route to the freeway entrance.

          And yes, I know about left turn lanes. Do I need to tell you about how traffic backs up, and how people slow before moving into those lanes? Do I need to teach you about traffic flow? You might not have noticed — because is most other such situation, there is another lane to use to go around it.

          • Slowing down momentarily to slide into a left-turn lane doesn’t cause congestion; it causes you to have to drive more slowly than you’d ideally like, which is arguably a good thing given Rowena’s reputation as a speedway. If reducing your speed for a few seconds while the driver in front of you prepares to turn — on a half-mile stretch of street that probably takes only a few minutes to traverse anyway — is such an intolerable burden, I submit that you’re probably better off not driving in city traffic.

          • All I hear is me, me, me. Think about everyone in the community that needs to use our streets: pedestrians, bikes, skateboards, joggers, cars, trucks and buses. Now share nicely; like you should have learned in 1st grade.

          • I should add that the sudden stopping and panicked, impatient merges that result from left turners using the left through-travel lane (i.e., Rowena’s former 4-lane configuration) most certainly *do* contribute to congestion, and result in more frequent collisions that screw things up even worse.

          • I think the point of the change is to intentionally slow vehicles and make it so people will use other transportation options more frequently. If it is easier to ride a bike or scooter people will be more likely to do so, therefore eliminating those vehicles from the road. People who still need to use the road in a car should see a benefit over time because the people with shorter local trips can move from a car to a bike and we can all breathe a little easier.

      • You are terrible advocate for a terrible status quo. If you like dangerous streets so much, go play in one and leave the rest of us in peace.

        San Bernardino beckons, Mark.

        • Rowena has never been a dangerous street — you can’t just make up hyped up assertions and present them as fact. But if you’re trying to bring more pedestrians into the street, you will make it dangerous.

          And change for the sake of change, as you advocate, is — just stupid. There’s an old saying: if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. And Rowena was not broke.

        • You’re making it out like Rowena has been the Autobahn until now.

      • Peter, Silverlake

        Wow, another angry, obsessive LA motorist! what a surprise…hey Marky, as you seem so miserable driving our streets maybe you should get off your lazy ass and try riding a bike locally. But watch out for your fellow drivers careening through our neighborhood. Sounds like you need to calm down. Maybe bike to a Yoga class?
        Better yet, move to the Westside. Your kind of idiot will fit right in!

        • Hey, Peter, don’t show your ignorance. Try reading and comprehending instead. His point is that Rowena is the only route to the freeway. No one takes the freeway to go locally. Are you suggesting he should ride his bicycle on the freeway?! Oh, maybe you thought he should put a carload of groceries from Ralphs on his bicycle?

          Lazy? Hey, are you 40, or 50 , or 80 years old, or do you have endless time on your hands to get things done because you are too lazy to get job perhaps so can lollydag all over on a bicycle — maybe you should think before you criticize people for not doing what YOU want to do. One is not lazy simply because they don’t choose to ride a bicycle. Stop being so ignorant.

          • Mark is angry and it makes sense. Traffic already sucks and losing a lane sucks as a motorist. I drive through that area, I don’t ride my bike there. But as I drove through this morning I saw the coolest thing. I saw four kids and all their eight parents on bikes riding to Ivanhoe. So let’s be honest, it will make traffic suck more. But they built it, and people are using it so that’s not fantasy land. That’s just more of the kind of community I’d like to live in. So we motorists will just have to suck it up so the kids riding to school with their parents can keep their sense of wonder, and feel important while they have some fun with their parents on their way to school. Worth it.

    • Anyone else appreciate the irony in a SIGN that tells you to “watch the road”?

  3. “month-long water pipeline construction project”? You’re kidding, right? Rowena has been hobbled by this mess for at least 5 years. Okay maybe I’m exaggerating but it’s been waaaaaaayyyyyy longer than a month.

  4. “month-long water pipeline construction project”? You’re kidding, right? Rowena has been hobbled by this mess for at least 5 years. Okay maybe I’m exaggerating but it’s been waaaaaaayyyyyy longer than a month.

  5. Calmer traffic. Safe bike lanes. Shops back to business. The next larchmont?

  6. Calmer traffic. Safe bike lanes. Shops back to business. The next larchmont?

    • Larchmont Village is completely different from Rowena. In the Larchmont area, there are plenty of north-south streets that one can travel on if they’d like to avoid the congestion of selfish yuppies going to their yoga classes. In Silverlake, Rowena is one of the only ways to travel from Fletcher Drive to Hyperion. Due to the geography of the hills, it is a very important traffic artery. It is completely misguided to give Rowena a road diet.

      • Bill this isn’t not a traffic artery. This is a residential area with a school zone. Motorists speed through it whether kids are present or not.

        Leave earlier or find another route. Motorists seem to enjoy clogging Los Feliz and Silverlake Blvds. Use that as your new “artery”. It’s not our neighborhood’s job to make your commute faster at the expense of the residents who live on Rowena. As I mentioned earlier, one less car will be great news for the neighborhood.

        • Pastrygrrl, I’ve lived 50 yards from the Ivanhoe school for over 13 years, so I feel it’s my neighborhood as well.

          What you don’t seem to realize is that taking away lanes won’t reduce the cars, because there are very few traffic alternatives. Taking away lanes just insures permanent, smog spewing gridlock. I’d rather teach my kid to obey crosswalks and traffic signals, than to have him develop emphysema from all of the pollution.

          • It’s difficult to believe that maintaining the status quo is what’s best for our transportation system or our health. If start to encourage cycling as a viable means of transportation today perhaps 20 years from now our air will be cleaner and fewer kids will suffer from obesity since we will have shifted away from automobile dependence.

        • Yes, Pastrygrrl, this IS a traffic artery. In fact, it is classified as a highway. It is a major thoroughfare.

          The routes you suggest do not get me from where I am to where I’m going. They are a completely different place. You’re not thinking. You clearly do not live in the Hyperion corridor, for you would never say such things if you did — and you seem too selfish to consider we who do.

      • Bill, you shouldn’t couch your statements behind anything other than your bloated sense of self importance.

        We are all already shedding a tear thinking of you, unable to get up to 50 mph, on your way to the red light by Trader Joes.

    • And I recently spent ten minutes trying to drive one block South on Larchmont. Larchmont, fortunately, is not a major and rare throughway in that area. Rowena is, and there really is not any alternative route. Compromise can be very tough, and so far a solution has not been presented that does not have a loser in it somewhere. Right now, the loser is everyone that wants to travel by car through there… I would like to see an imaginative civil engineer (oxymoron?) do some work here for the benefit of the entire community.

  7. Great news. Too many pedestrians have been hit and killed by speeding drivers on that stretch of road, and it’s great to see more bike lanes going in.

    • No, the accidents we heard of there were NOT due to speeding. In fact, in one case, it seemed the pedestrian who got hit had darted out from behind a parked car and in the dark right in front of a car.

  8. Great news. Too many pedestrians have been hit and killed by speeding drivers on that stretch of road, and it’s great to see more bike lanes going in.

    • No, the accidents we heard of there were NOT due to speeding. In fact, in one case, it seemed the pedestrian who got hit had darted out from behind a parked car and in the dark right in front of a car.

      • “Darting out” into traffic?! Do you also blame women who get raped for wearing the wrong clothes? You are gross and should be ashamed.

        • Yes, that particular one was a person who darted out from behind a parked car and in front of a car. It has no comparison to a rape, but if you want to try to distort what I said, instead of dealing with it honestly, then you can try to twist with such false analogies.

  9. Very cool… hope they can eventually extend these bike lanes up to the others that dead end at Silver Lake/Glendale and Hyperion/Griffith Park.

  10. Very cool… hope they can eventually extend these bike lanes up to the others that dead end at Silver Lake/Glendale and Hyperion/Griffith Park.

  11. I will miss having the extra lanes as it will slow down traffic, but it’s worth it to have safer pedestrians, this area has had too many pedestrian injuries. Ultimately just thrilled that the work on Rowena is finally done!

    • That’s a mature viewpoint and its nice to hear it. All too often in LA, drivers seem to think that their convenience is paramount, the safety of pedestrians be damned. In other words, “me, me, me”.

      • (Case in point, see LA Driver’s comment below.)

        • Slower though it may be, it can’t be slower than it has been over the last 1-2 years during all the construction. I’ve avoided Rowena at all costs since that started, and now happy to have it as a route again. I’m also happy for the local businesses who no doubt have suffered during the work. My favorite mechanic in the world Long is right there and he told me recently his business has dropped 40-50% during this construction. If you need car repair, go to Long, he’s fantastic, honest and very reasonably priced. (and yeah, bring back Coffee Table!)

  12. I was cussing at the top of my lungs in my car over the weekend when I got caught in this melee over the weekend. To be fair, the construction crews were only letting one lane of traffic through at a time. I wound up cutting down to Riverside to circumvent the mess, which I ultimately think is a much more appropriate street to handle the load of commuters who cut through the area. I think this is a great thing, as Rowena has a lot of great businesses and numerous residences that will suddenly have a neighborhood develop out of their loss of a speedy thoroughfare.

    In the meantime, though, it’d be great if they could somehow funnel more people down to Riverside from Glendale and Hyperion. It’d save not only drivers time and a lot of aggravation, but it’d also take a lot of the heavy traffic off of Rowena. Drivers instinctually continue from Glendale onto Rowena when heading north, though perhaps were there only one left-turn lane instead of two, and were they to narrow the width of Rowena at its mouth along Glendale (with landscaping or widened sidewalks), perhaps a rerouting of traffic patterns could easily be achieved.

  13. hoping for hyperion between fountain and rowena goes on a road diet in the future, too. so many people use this curvy stretch as a racetrack.

  14. hoping for hyperion between fountain and rowena goes on a road diet in the future, too. so many people use this curvy stretch as a racetrack.

    • I live just a couple blocks away from here and I very rarely patronize any of the businesses on this strip, because it feels like I’m walking on the freeway. They seem to set the traffic lights so that you stop at each one on the way down, which is a good thing, because otherwise people would be going 70 by the time they reach the bottom – they’re already going way too fast past the school.

    • They intentionally pushed traffic to Hyperion by putting in a lot of stop signs on Griffith Park Boulevard, which otherwise had been the route for most of the traffic from Sunset. Now, Hyperion carries both street loads. Thanks to that approach to a road diet, you get what you are complaining about. And your solution is another road diet?! Your complaint is the proof of the negative effects of a road diet!

  15. I Hate that this street has been slimmed down…so many of us are trying to go home and these narrow streets aren’t making any easier to get home to our children and families.

    This is Not Practical for LA drivers and they keep doing this- it just delays the process and makes it worse.
    They should just have left it with 2 lanes.

    This Sux!

  16. I Hate that this street has been slimmed down…so many of us are trying to go home and these narrow streets aren’t making any easier to get home to our children and families.

    This is Not Practical for LA drivers and they keep doing this- it just delays the process and makes it worse.
    They should just have left it with 2 lanes.

    This Sux!

  17. I’m excited to see this! I’m sure there will be ample grumblings from the folks that are just trying to speed through, but I think the upside will be worth it for all the diverse users – pedestrians, cyclists, businesses – even those of us in cars who are willing to slow down a little.

    • Nobody has been speeding through Rowena. You just make up that assertion. The speed limit is 35, as the safe speed required by state law. But you just make up false assertions and claim everyone is speeding. No, they are not. You would not even have much luck speeding through, as there is always too much traffic to even be able to — not surprising since it is a major thoroughfare.

      Try honesty as an argument next time. You’re welcome to have whatever you point of view you want, but be honest about it.

      • “Nobody has been speeding through Rowena” – really? OK, I haven’t stood out there with a radar gun, but my experience is this: I commuted on this stretch of road daily for several years (I’m referring to the time period before the pipeline construction). When I drove at the speed limit I was frequently passed by cars going ten or fifteen mph over the limit and routinely ignoring the 25mph posted school zone. Honest truth, Henry.

        And nowhere in my statement did I claim “everyone is speeding”.

        • Well, I say you are very wrong. I drive there all the time — and it has never been a speeding area. Oh, certainly, one car at some point sped down there, but that does not make it a place where lots of people are speeding. You’re just making things up when you otherwise have no facts to back up what you assert.

          • Well, I say you are very wrong. You aren’t driving there right now – unless you’re posting while driving. Oh, certainly, you drove there often at some point, but the observation of Mr. Rollers is that he generally saw lots of people speeding. You’re just making things up when you otherwise have no facts to back up what you assert.

  18. Well that’s good news. Now if only the Coffee Table would magically return.

  19. What a great improvement for the community. I live a few blocks away and bike and drive this stretch regularly (until now, I’ve shopped and dined there less frequently because the street is a nightmare to cross with all the cut-through traffic).

    Also, I really have to say how great it is to see all of the positive comments from locals about this improvement, especially in light of Eastsider’s generally cranky coverage of this issue (sorry, it’s not losing traffic lanes. It’ll now have 5 vehicle lanes–3 multi-user lanes and 2 bike lanes–instead of 4.)

    • Just a small point: it isn’t actually “cut through traffic.” That is the only route to many places from West of Glendale Boulevard. They’re not cutting through, they are taking the only route.

  20. Anyone know where to purchase those great “Slow Down and Watch the Road” signs? We could use a couple hundred of them here in Eagle Rock. Now that Rowena has been put on a diet, Colorado Blvd. will reign supreme as L.A.’s hippest Boulevard of Death.

  21. Improved safety, more bike lanes- good news all around!

  22. Improved safety, more bike lanes- good news all around!

  23. You would think with all the suffering they caused with the street closings all around that area they would have fully paved the streets they dug up. As it is only sections are paved and the others are still as bumpy as hell. Not everyone is driving SUVs and Buicks, the roads in and around Silverlake are terrible.

    Otherwise nice to see the loss of a lane and the addition of a bike lane. Lot’s of drivers are not aware that they can shoot up and down Riverside quickly, maybe this will give them a hint.

  24. You would think with all the suffering they caused with the street closings all around that area they would have fully paved the streets they dug up. As it is only sections are paved and the others are still as bumpy as hell. Not everyone is driving SUVs and Buicks, the roads in and around Silverlake are terrible.

    Otherwise nice to see the loss of a lane and the addition of a bike lane. Lot’s of drivers are not aware that they can shoot up and down Riverside quickly, maybe this will give them a hint.

  25. This is great – here’s hoping that Hyperion is next. (And, yes, hooray for all the positive comments.)

  26. Great news! As a local that lives a couple of blocks away, I’m thrilled to see this. Now if we can just find a way to make Glendale Blvd decent…

  27. I would love to see this on Sunset Blvd, but it will never happen, being that the City considers Sunset a highway.

  28. This “road diet” is bullcrap. I live right there on Avenel and the traffic here is often heavy, and has been particularly nightmarish during the water project. Turning this into 1 lane either direction will only continue this trend.

    Progress my butt.

    • The road diet is idiotic. I recommend you and your neighbors contact Tom LaBonge’s office and let him know what an moronic move this is.

      • And everyone who is happy about the road diet like me should also let LaBonge’s office know how much they like it so a few crabs don’t ruin this great start at making Rowena a neighborhood again and more than just a cut-through for people to speed to get to the freeway. I live here too and the first thing I noticed was how much less honking of horns there has been since it re-opened which is a small thing that indicates a safer street. And now it flows smooth and steady and at the speed limit rather than speed and stop, speed and stop. GREAT!

  29. YAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!! Tail wagging tremendously!!!!!

  30. I don’t see how “bike lanes” (that are rarely used) will help stop cars from running over drunks that dash across the street from the various bars and restaurants along Rowena?

    • Because there will now be fewer lanes of motor vehicle traffic to cross, and it will be harder for said traffic to accelerate up to dangerous speeds. It’s not the bike lanes themselves that improve pedestrian safety, but rather the reduction in general-purpose lanes.

    • Why did you put bike lanes in quotes?

  31. I don’t see how “bike lanes” (that are rarely used) will help stop cars from running over drunks that dash across the street from the various bars and restaurants along Rowena?

  32. There is a typo in the headline to this article.

    The legislature made it state law that bicycles are officially a form of transportation.

    From CALIFORNIA CODES, STREETS AND HIGHWAYS CODE SECTION 885.2 (f):
    “The bicycle is a legitimate transportation mode on public roads and highways.”

    Bicycles are travel lanes as well, so Rowena is not “losing travel lanes” – it is having travel lanes reconfigured.

  33. I used to be skeptical of “road diets” until I started driving. Now that I drive, I see that so often, the left lane is blocked by someone waiting to turn left, and so a “four-lane” street really only has one lane in each direction through intersections anyway. By adding the center/left-turn lane, we keep exactly the same configuration at intersections that we already had, but with more space for bikes and pedestrians, and fewer lane changes by drivers who have to swerve around unexpected left-turners. It’s much more efficient use of the space. (Except at night, when you could expect no one to be turning left, and just go up to 50 in the middle lane – but we should be discouraging that kind of behavior anyway.)

  34. I can’t believe they’ve actually done this. I’ve lived a block off of Rowena for over 13 years, and I have to say that having two single lanes of permanently gridlocked traffic – car engines filling the air with pollutants – is much worse for the neighborhood’s quality of life than having two double lanes of free flowing traffic.

    • Right, you’re so concerned with air pollution, that’s why you’r opposed to this change– what a saint!

      Just come out and say it: you oppose this change because you believe it is your right to speed uninhibited on public streets and you feel people who cycle should be excluded from our transportation planning.

      • Due to the geography of the area, Rowena is one of the very few streets that residents can use to get into and out of the area. I believe in bike lanes, but they should not come at the greater good of society. Way more people rely on Rowena for motor vehicle traffic, than for bicycle traffic. Taking away traffic lanes isn’t going to make the traffic magically disappear. It will just make Rowena a permanently congested hellhole.

        • It’s been 3 days already and no hint of a “congested hellhole”….in fact it’s been quite the opposite so far, slower speeds and a much less stressful drive. I LOVE that I can turn left onto Herkhimer now without worrying I’ll get rear ended.

    • LADOT did a preliminary traffic analysis of this project. They determined that the existing (pre-construction) volumes of motor vehicle traffic could continue using the street in a road diet configuration with minimal additional delay; i.e., there might be a couple of extra cars in front of you at the light, but you’ll likely still get through on the green. I’m highly skeptical of the claim that traffic is ‘permanently gridlocked,’ as that would be wildly inconsistent with what was projected and what typically happens on streets that undergo this type of reconfiguration. I’ll be interested to see/hear the report at the end of the 90-day evaluation period; my guess is that it will probably show the average driver is taking <1 extra minute to get through this half-mile stretch vs. the previous configuration.

  35. No need for all this anger

    As an avid cyclist, I can assure everyone that people will simply drive their SUV’s in the bike lane, just because they can, and the police wont do anything about it.

  36. I use Rowena every day, sometimes in a car and sometimes on a bike. The road diet makes life better for both.

    Come out to Fire Station No. 56, 2759 Rowena Ave., on Friday, March 15 at 8 a.m. to show your support for the road diet!

    More info at http://www.tomlabonge.com/news/story/784

  37. I don’t understand why the title of this article states ‘Silver Lake street loses traffic lanes’, when bike lanes are considered traffic lanes, according to the DMV. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/traffic_lanes.htm

    A more appropriate title would be ‘Silver Lake street gains bike lanes’. It’s more specific to the story’s subject.

  38. Great!!! So now all that bullshit traffic from the construction will continue forever!! I look forward to never getting to Trader Joe’s again! Great for anyone who deosn’t live in the neighborhood.

  39. My wife and I are business owners on Rowena and we support the “road diet”. There are turn lanes at all intersections to help guide traffic and center turn /merge lanes to help people get in and out of businesses safely. With all of the construction gone, the traffic flow will be fine. I hope it stays.

  40. All the talk of safety doesn’t account for all the people who jay walk. Taking away lanes from cars isn’t going to solve that big problem. If they wanted to slow down the traffic, lights and stop signs are the only good solution or crosswalks with lights. This was my main way to work form EP because of the shape of the hills, so those who act like it’s not a highly used road are incorrect. If all the bike riders obeyed the traffic laws while they were riding maybe I could take them seriously. As it is, I find they don’t stop at stop signs or lights, don’t signal and dart from riding on sidewalks to the streets whenever the whim hits them.

  41. This same debate is raging in Highland Park as the City prepares to put bike lanes on Figueroa all the way from Colorado down San Fernando. In order to add bike lanes, they are removing car lanes, reducing Figueroa – the ONLY through north/south route in all of Northeast L.A. – to a one-car-lane each way road. I am on record as opposing this; others support it. I won’t reiterate all the pro/con arguments here, but I do want to say this: the opposition from drivers is not due to a desire to “speed.” Most drivers are just regular people trying to do what regular folks do – get to work, drop their kids at school, go shopping, whatever. Maybe they are older, or disabled, or have to wear professional clothes to the office. Maybe in this economy they have no choice but to drive to a distant job because they can’t get another one. Maybe they just want to drive at the speed limit and not sit in interminable traffic all the time, creating pollution. Let’s just acknowledge that and quite throwing all of these stupid insults around. Motorists aren’t driving for the sole purpose of irritating cyclists, and their desire for safe, efficient roads is not unreasonable.

    • hah– if “creating pollution” was a concern they wouldn’t be driving. Maybe in this economy people don’t have a choice but to bike or take public transit because driving is too expensive. Let’s plan for the future. We won’t be a bicycle paradise over night. Getting there may inconvenience people in the short term but long term, being a bikeable city is a big win.

      • Los Angeles will never be a truly “bikeable city.” It’s too big. People may be able to bike in their neighborhoods, recreationally (as I do), on weekends, or a few lucky souls who are young and hardy and have jobs that don’t require wearing a suit & tie, or worse yet, a skirt and heels, may bike to work, but the vast, vast majority of people here simply cannot use their bikes on a regular basis. There are many reasons why; some of them have to do with the history of L.A., the design mistakes that were made way back when, the sprawl, the failure to build a really usable public transportation system. There are other reasons as well, but in the end you are still left with a simple fact – L.A. is 469 square miles. Not the County – just the City. We need to think differently here, not compare ourselves with extremely dense cities with excellent public transportation like New York or San Francisco, and come up with transportation planning projects that really help move people – not just a tiny minority of folks on bikes at the expense of everyone else.

        • How do you propose we think differently? By plugging our ears and screaming that “we’re different”!!! or working to correct the poor planning of the past and building a city that works for everyone?

  42. No, what’s bullshit is all the people that use Silver Lake as their thoroughfare to get to work and clog all the streets around my neighborhood.

    I also agree that this “diet” is BS! If you are going to “diet” at least time the lights correctly so the goddamn light in front of Ivanhoe doesn’t back up traffic in both directions.

    I am sorry for the people that have been hurt or injured but jaywalking at night and not at a crosswalk doesn’t seem to make sense restricting the traffic flow for the am and afternoon.

  43. No, what’s bullshit is all the people that use Silver Lake as their thoroughfare to get to work and clog all the streets around my neighborhood.

    I also agree that this “diet” is BS! If you are going to “diet” at least time the lights correctly so the goddamn light in front of Ivanhoe doesn’t back up traffic in both directions.

    I am sorry for the people that have been hurt or injured but jaywalking at night and not at a crosswalk doesn’t seem to make sense restricting the traffic flow for the am and afternoon.

  44. Mark got it right. This is bullsh*t. Sure there’s an elementary school. There is also an underground crosswalk.

    5 years to put in pipes, and at the end we get a permanent trafffic jam? Because the West Side Hipsters can’t teach their brats how to cross a street USING A TUNNEL?

    This section of Rowena IS a major street, not a shortcut. And this is a major disaster. Tom LeBonge should lose his job over it.

  45. Road diet more like dangerous clogged artery, I live on Rowena it is far more dangerous turning in and out of my parking lot then it has ever been before. I have to slow down and cars now cross into the middle lane to pass (yes, they are A-holes for doing it but it happens). also traffic is Far greater then it was ever before the construction. as for the précises bike lanes I don’t see any bikes using them, I saw a guy in a mobile scooter using it today but no bikes. Now to make things even better lets add drunk people crossing the street from the Eden dale @ 2am when the roads are empty and the cars are moving fast with little lanes and its just a matter of time before another person is going to loose their life. so when we want cars to move they can’t when we don’t want cars moving fast they are able to scream down the road, oh and let us not forget turning in and out of a parking lot now backs traffic up……… lane diet smooth move Labonge!

  46. LADOT did a preliminary traffic analysis of this project. They determined that the existing (pre-construction) volumes of motor vehicle traffic could continue using the street in a road diet configuration with minimal additional delay; i.e., there might be a couple of extra cars in front of you at the light, but you’ll likely still get through on the green. I’m highly skeptical of the claim that traffic is ‘permanently gridlocked,’ as that would be wildly inconsistent with what was projected and what typically happens on streets that undergo this type of reconfiguration. I’ll be interested to see/hear the report at the end of the 90-day evaluation period; my guess is that it will probably show the average driver is taking <1 extra minute to get through this half-mile stretch vs. the previous configuration.

  47. hah– if “creating pollution” was a concern they wouldn’t be driving. Maybe in this economy people don’t have a choice but to bike or take public transit because driving is too expensive. Let’s plan for the future. We won’t be a bicycle paradise over night. Getting there may inconvenience people in the short term but long term, being a bikeable city is a big win.

  48. How do you propose we think differently? By plugging our ears and screaming that “we’re different”!!! or working to correct the poor planning of the past and building a city that works for everyone?

  49. one extra Minute HA!

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