Smokeless tobacco is out at Dodger Stadium; where have all the transit riders gone?

MOrning Report

  • The City Council voted unanimously to ban the use of smokeless tobacco products at Dodger Stadium and all other sports venues.The Dodgers had previously expressed support for the measure.  L.A. Now
  • Despite spending $9 billion on new rail and subway lines, the number of passengers boarding Metro buses and trains has declined 10% from 2005 to 2015.  There are now fewer passenger boardings than there were 30 years ago. L.A. Times
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  1. Fewer riders??? This makes no sense. Anybody who takes the train to work will know how PACKED Union Station is every morning/evening with commuters. There’s no room to sit and hardly any room to stand on the goldline when I go to work in the morning.
    There’s more and more businesses coming to Union Station because there’s a huge demand for vendors like coffee, bagels, etc.
    No comprendo.

  2. Or maybe we have 10% fewer PAYING riders?? Lmao

  3. Couple reasons come to mind:

    1) Temporarily cheap oil… won’t last forever

    2) Better economy/more people can afford to drive… this’ll probably change soon without Wall Street regulation

    3) Uber/Lyft, obviously… and if driverless cars ever hit the streets, this’ll probably double or triple in mode share

    4) Metro keeps cutting bus service to the bone… then again, if driverless buses come out the cost of service will
    shrink dramatically

    5) LA’s car-centric zoning creates affordable parking, instead of affordable housing near transit stops

    It’s important to keep in mind though, rail has other benefits to the region. Just look at how much investment has happened downtown since the subway opened. Mass transit lays the foundation for agglomeration of people, jobs and culture — a huge boon to the local economy.

    • The union will never allow driver-less buses. The technology already exist which makes train drivers redundant and safer but the unions insist that their operators are superior. Laughable of course when one reads about the plethora of operator error caused accidents on rails across the country.

      • Yeah, if it happens it’s gonna be a tough transition… and not just for buses. Truck drivers, delivery drivers, Uber/Lyft/Taxis, etc. That’ll be a whole lot of people out of a job.

  4. Here’s an interesting counterpoint to that Times article about Metro ridership: http://www.ethanelkind.com/l-a-times-misleads-on-metro-rail-ridership-history/

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