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Friday, September 30, 2016

Silver Lake Walking Man death ruled a suicide

The Los Angeles County coroner announced this morning that Marc Abrams – Silver Lake’s famed Walking Man – drowned himself in the hot tub of his Moreno Drive home, the Los Angeles Times reports.  “He was found in the Jacuzzi with the Jacuzzi lid pulled over the Jacuzzi itself,” Ed Winter, assistant chief of the Department of Coroner Investigations, told the Times. “There was no suicide note found.”

On Sunday,  several hundred people walked through Silver Lake  to honor the memory of Abrams,  who often strolled the neighborhood shirtless while reading a folded newspaper. The 58-year-old doctor died while he was under investigation in connection with the overdose of one of his patients.



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17 comments

  1. Am I missing something? Could this not also be murder? Wouldn’t the cover have to be secured from the outside?

  2. Same thought here.
    This report is odd, plus I’ve got other questions.
    Isn’t is hard to drown yourself?
    I guess you accomplish it without fighting it if drugged, sedated. Will a toxicology report be something else “leaked”.
    Someone had seen him on Griffith Park Blvd around 4pm they said.
    What would have prompted someone to check under a jacuzzi lid for him just a couple hours later?

    I liked what I knew of him, just around town, he was a nice guy.

  3. Times also reported Walking Man’s lawyer questioning how this is automatically decided to be suicide.

    Times says the full coroner’s report was not available, was being transcribed. So, until that is released, no further explanation of why it is deemed to be suicide. So, the Times pursued the lawyer to highlight the question. (Why did the Eastsider overlook this serious question in the story?)

    Yes, theoretically could be murder (although I certainly have no info that would suggest such), even could be an accident in which the top somehow fell on top and kept him in — I guess, like maybe he was doing something with it and slipped and it feel on top and latched?

    Anyway, the Times reporter understands and tells me she is on top of it — I did some e-mailing with her. So, hopefully another report when that transcript comes out.

  4. Toxicology reports take a couple/few weeks — possibly more info at that time. But if they had consideration of that, they would NOT be making a final determination of death now, would say that is pending the toxicology — because they would have to consider whether he actually OD’d. Besides, if he were to have taken drugs to help, he would have instead just overdosed on them, not drowned himself.

    Also, as I discussed with the Times reporter, clearly no authority saw the lid of the hot tub closed over him — because his wife, who supposedly found him, obviously would have opened it before she ever called for help and paramedics. So, that lid business must be completely based on her testimony — and presumably no reason to think she isn’t telling the truth (in fact, by making it a suicide, she presumably would lose any insurance benefits that otherwise would pay out, so that would not have been a smart story to make up!).

  5. Thank you, Kevin.
    Insightful information. I hadn’t thought about an accident. Worth following up on the lawyer’s questions. I’m wondering what triggered his poor wife to look in a closed jacuzzi.
    I feel sorry for her.

  6. Everyone is looking very far into this. If someone wants to die, they will find a way to do it. A jacuzzi lid is usually just a basic cover that you can slip over it, in or out of the jacuzzi, usually without any sort of latch or lock. I hope if he was sad or wanted a way out, that he is now in peace. My father just killed himself a month ago, and I would be frustrated, angry, sad, an endless amount of emotions, if someone questioned if it was murder instead. Usually when the coroner rules it as a suicide, there is a reason, it’s not a fast ruling.

  7. Laura: Right. But all anyone is saying here is they would like to know WHY the coroner said suicide, because that is a very odd way — and as one person pointed out, probably difficult way — to accomplish a suicide. I don’t think anyone is really expecting it was a murder, but they would like the facts so they never have to wonder. Any proper investigation would have to rule that out, so hopefully the reason is in the transcript when it comes out.

    After all, they’re not even waiting to see if it was a drug overdose and he just went unconscious and slipped into the water. They are saying this is the FINAL word, suicide by DROWNING.

    A suicide note would have been nice, but unfortunately, he didn’t leave one. But on the other hand, the scandal that has come out in the aftermath of this death was very surprising, even shocking, and leaves people wondering if there is more.

  8. There is definitely more to this story. I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out there was a rope around his neck, too, or some other factor in his method of self-murder.

  9. @Laura Lindlief, my condolences to you and your family for the loss of your father. That’s a tough one. My sister killed herself about five years ago, and life isn’t the same after losing someone to suicide. I will remember you in my thoughts.

  10. @Ruby, thank you for your thoughts. Losing someone to suicide, that close, seems to completely change your world. I hope you are doing ok.
    @Kevin, I guess we will see when the toxicology results come back, if there was anything in his system. But all I was saying is that a coroner’s investigation is very thorough. In my father’s case it was very apparent what happened, but the coroner still took a few hours to rule it as that. I don’t evenknow what the results were to the toxicology report, but it usually doesn’t change what he made the decision to do. I hope you guys all find the answers and closure you are looking for though.

  11. Wow. This is all still hard to believe. He dies, reports of investigations, and now its declared a suicide? Man. I feel like I’m living in an episode of Law and Order.

  12. Dr. Abrams was partially shrouded by mystery in life and so to in death. Not sure how the facts will pan out with the public, however I do know I miss spotting him around the neighborhood.

  13. I was shocked and saddened to hear of Dr. Abrams passing. I worked for him and he and his wife were wonderful and generous people. Tragic. My heart goes out to his wife.

  14. @El-Dandy:

    Thi is totally an episode of Law & Order – even better the new Law & Order: Los Angeles with Alfred Molina. My money is on a walking man episode.

  15. If the KPCC report is correct then my heart goes out to Dr. Abrams. He fought many demons.

    To the blabbermouth “official” who spoke anon. to the LA Times. To say that “all of his patients were drug addicts” is irresponsible and an affront to his patients.
    As an official, it’s reprehensible to leak information or an OPINION in the context of fact. Shame!

    However it would have played out (good or bad), I will miss seeing the Walker around SL.

  16. I miss seeing him…
    However his last day played out, I wish I had the opportunity to tell him how often he made me smile.

  17. Any new developments in the case?

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