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Monday, September 26, 2016

Another Echo Park weekend shooting *

One man was left in critical condition after being shot this afternoon in a 7-Eleven parking lot in Echo Park, the second shooting this weekend that has resulted in injuries. Today’s shooting took place at about noon at Sunset Boulevard and Rosemont Street, said LAPD officer Joseph Sanchez. The reason for the shooting was not known but it was not related to any of the shops in the corner shopping center.  Today’s shooting comes only about 24 hours after one man was shot during an apparent gun battle near Echo Park Lake that sent residents scrambling for cover.

* Update @ 9:05 P.M.: Sgt. Sanchez said today’s shooting does not appear to be gang related based on preliminary information.

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29 comments

  1. What the heck is going on?
    What do our long-time residents think about this activity (including you guys at the Eastsider)? I’ve only been here for about 5 or 6 years, only been paying attention to what’s going on for about 3. Is this a normal ebb and flow?

  2. @Kelly-

    “…normal ebb and flow”?

    More like Hustle and Flow.

  3. This is scary. Too many shots fired. Why? I do not know but I do know that it is sad when neighborhood kids know to hit the ground when they hear shots fired. It is part of their upbringing.

  4. this is past the point of acceptable. the police know who the trouble makers are in the neighborhood, and now it’s time to start busting them for any little thing. if it’s acceptable public policy for homeless people to be harassed in hopes that they will move on, then it should be acceptable to bust these guys every time they’re standing around in public drinking, smoking pot, tagging, etc…

    after the fatal shootings last year we had a big public meeting, and it turned into a big kumbaya fest and nothing happened afterwards. this needs to be dealt with now.

  5. It needs to stop

    This violence is part of a cycle that starts up every couple of years and escalates until some innocent person is caught in the middle. Then the gangsters cool their heels until we all forget and then they start up again. We used to live in Angeleno Heights until our neighbor’s child was killed by a stray bullet that came into her house while she was helping her mom with the dishes. There were lots of meetings and Ed Reyes himself came to one and lots of talk about how we should “do something” but no one had any action steps that residents could take, other than to call the police. And we asked. And prodded. Nothing. So, after 20 years of living in Echo Park, we rented our house out and moved. To the suburbs. Do we love it as much? No, but our daughter is safe to play outside. And that’s what really matters.

  6. Wow this is crazy is there anymore information about this crime? Do they know if this is linked to yesterdays shooting? I’ll make sure I’m careful around that area once again when I go visit family.

  7. Re: It needs to stop

    I remember that shooting on East Kensington, December 20th. I was one of two eye-witnesses, even rode with the little girl and her mother to the hospital (she didn’t know the way and didn’t speak English). I was questioned by the cops, provided useless descriptions (so sorry for that), and continued to follow up with the Detective for years, hoping to have my chance to help in court. The cops can’t make any of the guys they were certain were responsible confess. It seems they do their best but can’t manage to get the bad guys, the sloppy ruthless wannabe gangbangers that do this kind of damage to innocent families, off the streets. What I wish there was was more dialogue. I wish people like me in the neighborhood would at least KNOW what the cops are trying to do about it, and what they simply are unable to do about it. Their work is so shrouded that it appears they’re not doing any at all. That is the most frustrating part about it. Made me consider going vigilante more than a few times. To me, that indicates a failure to serve a community.

  8. I hear your frustration.

  9. Why is everyone getting uptight towards LAPD? It read that “it does not appear to be gang related”… First, everyone cries about all the people selling things around Echo Park (trying to make a buck), undercover LAPD clear the park, break-ins around Echo Park, auto break-ins. THINGS HAPPEN . Crime happens every where (N-S-E-W) It happens in the west side too. How many times was Martin Sheen’s car stolen and rolled off a cliff?? We just don’t hear about it. I commend LAPD for being there when we call for an emergency.

  10. The truth is that this IS STILL Echo Park and it’s not likely to change. I grew up here and have returned almost 20 years later, and you’ve still got shootings and choppers most nights. And don’t let the recent gentrification give you folks a false sense of security. All you need to do is take a drive down Temple or Alvarado to sober you up. Thats the Echo Park that I remember as a kid, and while I wish it weren’t the case, no amount of boutiques or coffee shops can change it overnight.

  11. LIFER why you trying to scare the new residents of Echo Park? Echo Park, Highland Park, Montecito Park, Eagle Rock (Sum it up- all neighborhoods different names). Echo Park isn’t any worse than the rest. I am proud to live in Echo Park (think about the convienances; access to all freeways, close to Downtown LA, near Dodger Stadium, not far from Staples. Echo Park is right smack in the middle of EVERYTHING) =) People like you give Echo Park a bad name.

  12. I am as concerned about the violent weekend we had as anybody else. But before we all do a collective freak-out, let’s revisit our crime stats. Does anybody have the latest for this year and shed some light on how it compares to last year?

    I ask because a lot of people on this site are sharing anecdoctal information about what is like when they grew up here and how it never changes at all. I’ve been here almost twenty years, and I think the stories of the events this weekend used to be the “norm” int his neighborhood. Today, they are (thank god) the aberration and that is why we freak out. The statistics I have seen, bear this out. I believe that LA in general and the NorthEast and Rampart Stations in particular (which patrol Echo Park) are at historic lows for violent crimes, including shootings and murder, rape etc. So, assuming that those statistics are true for Echo park as well, then it seems that the weekend we just had was merely an anomaly. Right? That’s no comfort at all to most of us, who wish that the incidence of violent crime was zero. And, I am sure (or at least, I hope) that the LAPD is working hard to get us to zero. All of us should do our part to see if we can contribute to that goal as well. I’m feeling pretty scared right now too, but I am just trying to give us some perspective and remind us that we’ve seen worst (or at least, I’ve seen worst).

  13. The part that makes these even more disturbing than the usual, to me at least, is that they are happening in broad daylight and at places where there are a lot of innocent bystanders. (Echo Park Lake, 7-11).

    Ugh.

  14. whats crazy is that the 7 11 is a well known Police hangout and yet there are crazies willing to shoot somone in broad daylight. I live around the corner from that 7 eleven, was at work at the time so wasn’t aware of what happened.

  15. Yeah that IS really strange. Every time I go to that 7-11 there is at least one cop car, usually more…

  16. What’s so strange to me, as a big landlord in Silverlake / Echo Park, is that everyone knows exactly where the gangsters live and hang out. I could personally post addresses here for the leadership of the Temple Street gang, for example. I know from direct personal experience that the police know where they are also. Yet no one does anything about evicting / arresting them and cleaning up the area.

    Would love to hear from the police officers who frequent this blog why nothing is done about these people?

  17. Im sorry but I agree with lifer on this one. I live in a similar neighborhood not too far from Echo park & Ive been here for 10 years. The gang activity has lowered & the gentrification has risen but it takes a really long time for things to change. Echo Park was considered an overall gang neighborhood until around 5-6 years ago – it takes time to change. By time I mean – 10-20 years sometimes. Apparently there were full on fires on my street in the L.A riots. Now Im here I still hear ghetto birds & gunshots occasionally. My thought is that this is part of living in a city but I really do think that “ridiculous” is also correct. The police know who these people are – time to shut them down. Im not down on the LAPD however after a recent event outside my door – it took 25 mins for the police to arrive by which time it was all over. Not impressed.

  18. time for echo park armed patrol “

  19. I generally see a lot of cops stopping here for coffee as well. In fact, I always make sure I’m not exceeding the speed limit when I pass by just in case they’ve got their radar guns on. I’m surprised there was no police presence when this happened. What’s with the recent upswell of shootings? Scary.

  20. I doubt it wasn’t another gang related shooting. Sure a man just walked up to someone and shot a person and one person at that and didn’t do a columbine while in his frenzy. Sounds fishy to me. SOunds like LAPD (Northeast and Rampart) is under a lot of extra stress with all its new local residents. What better way to ease their worries and get pressure off their backs then make things look A OK.

  21. I was going to 7-11 like 20 minutes after the shooting happened… and the cops thought i did it. pulled me out of my car guns drawn everything. apparently the description of the shooter is white hipster-looking male and he drives a black mustang.

    It was a great way to wake up.

  22. Lt. Wes Buhrmester, Rampart Patrol Division

    This crime is being investigated by the Rampart Homicide Unit and the Crimes Against Persons unit due to the wounds incurred by the victim. He is still hospitalized. The motive at this time is unknown, but not believed to be robbery. The victim is not a gang member. There may have been a dispute. Witnesses have come forward, and a composite drawing is being done, and it is anticipated this drawing will be released for general distribution after it is complete. This shooting was not related to the shooting near Echo Park.

    Wes
    [email protected]
    (213) 484-3400

  23. Lt. Wes Buhrmester, Rampart Patrol Division

    Crime statistics are available to the public on the LAPD website, lapdonline.org. Rampart’s statistics are at:

    http://lapdonline.org/assets/pdf/rmpprof.pdf

    While aggravated assaults (those resulting in significant bodily injury or likely to result in it) are down by nine crimes (300 this year, v. 309 last year), reports of shots fired have increased by 55% (118 v. 76). Shooting victims have also increased, by 56%, 56 this year v. 36 last year. The reasons for this are often elusive. Considerations include staffing levels, paroled gang members, a serial suspect, even the types of firearms used and the suspects’ proficiency with them (resulting in hits rather than misses).

    Constant analysis is undertaken to try to forecast trends based upon available information, so we may try to put our assets into the right areas. We also do not try to simply move a problem, as that is not a solution. We work with the City Attorney’s Office, as well as the City Council members, the Department of Corrections & Rehabilitation, the Probation Department, and support and advocacy groups. The goal is to dig deeper than just figuring out who is committing crimes, but why, and how it may be prevented.

    As far as getting pressure off our backs, it’s always there. And the determination of a neighborhood being a-ok is made by the residents, through their confidence in their safety. We contribute to that safety factor, however are but one tool and certainly not the final determinant.

    Wes
    [email protected]
    (213) 484-3400

  24. Thank you Lt Burhmester for your very thorough response and thoughtful comments.

  25. THIS IS FOR IT NEEDS TO STOP. FIRST OF ALL I LIVE ON EAST KENSINGTON R.D 2 HOUSES AWAY FROM WHERE THIS INCIDENT OCCURED AND YOU SAY THAT THE SUSPECTS DIDNT CONFESS OFCOURSE NOT THEY WERE INNOCENT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM EVERYONE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY THEY WERE MISJUDGE DUE TO THEIR APPEARENCE WHEN THEY WERE ARRESTED BOTH OF THE SUSPECTS HAD CLEAN RECORDS DID NOT BELONG 2 A GANG NO TATOOS AND THEIR NOT IN A GANG FILE NO TICKETS NO ARRESTS CLEAN ENOUGH TO BE COPS YET THE LAPD ENTER THEIR HOMES WITH NO WARRENTS THATS ILLEGAL ON 1 OF THE SUSPECTS HOUSE THEY FOUND 2 NOT 1 BUT 2 ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES A GOOD AMOUNT OF CASH AND GUESS WHAT SWEETHEART STILL NO CHARGES WERE FILED BUT THIS ARE THE PEOPLE U LOOK UP TO HUH AND YET THEY TOLD EVERYONE THEY PLEADED SELF DEFENSE WHEN THEY NEVER EVEN SEEN A JUDGE TO ENTER A PLEAD THEY WERE RELEASE IN 72 HOURS DUE TO 100% INNOCENCE THEY GAVE GUN POWDER TESTS GUESS WHAT NEGATIVE BUT YOUR UPDATED HUH EVEN THOUGH 1 OF THE SUSPECTS HAD A LAWYER HE CHOSED NOT TO HAVE HIM PRESENT DURING INTERROGATION TO PROVED HOW INNOCENT HE WAS ITS KIND OF INTERESTING HOW AT FIRST COPS SAID IT WAS A CROSSFIRE BETWEEN TWO RIVAL GANGS AND THEN SWITCH THE STORY 2 A MAN GOT OUT APPROACH THE SUSPECTS BUT HES GUN JAMMED SO WHICH STORY IS IT IN A COURT OF LAW A SWITCH OF STORY DOES NOT HAVE CREDIBILITY LEARN ABOUT OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM BEFORE ENTERING A COURT ROOM AND WHAT KIND OF FATHER WOULD HAVE HIS CHILD OR STEP CHILD IN THIS CASE LIVING IN FRONT OF A BATTLE FIELD FOR YEARS WHEN HE TOLD THE L.A TIMES THAT ANOTHER FAMILY MOVED DUE 2 THE SAME REASON DRAMA BUT HE HAS THE NERVE 2 SELL THE HOUSE AFTER ALL THIS HAPPENED IS LIKE WHITE PEOPLE SAY DUDE FOR WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT EARLIER AND JUST FOR THE RECORD I BEEN IN ANGELINO HEIGHTS FOR ABOUT 27 YEARS AND MY FAMILY IS BEEN HERE SINCE THE EARLY 70’S

  26. Aldo Thee Apache

    OK LIKE THE NEED TO RAMBLE ON IN ALL CAPS NEEDS TO STOP.

  27. I let it go this time since it was a first-time offense (I believe). But, please folks, do not post comments in ALL CAPS.

  28. I was riding my bicycle on Sunset just minutes after this happened. There was still blood on the sidewalk and police scrambling around when i reached the 7-11. It was not a pretty site and it reminded me of growing up in Latin America where violence is visible in all neighborhoods.

  29. “THIS IS FOR IT NEEDS TO STOP. FIRST OF ALL I LIVE ON EAST KENSINGTON R.D 2 HOUSES blah blah blah, ”

    Vanna can I buy a period?

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