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Saturday, October 1, 2016

Trouble brewing as coffee house owner wants to serve beer & wine

Fix Coffee opened at the corner of Echo Park Avenue and Baxter Street nearly three years ago much to the delight of Elysian Heights residents who long yearned for a neighborhood place to sip coffee while tapping away at their laptops. Now, Marc Galluci, the owner of the stylish cafe that sports a bright orange awning, wants to start serving dinner and pouring beer and wine in addition to cappuccinos. That proposal has generated a lot of support among Fix customers and nearby residents who want a cafe they can walk to for an evening meal and drink.  Nearly 2,000 people have signed a petition in support of Fix’s application for a beer and wine license. But the prospect of beer and wine flowing in the Elysian Heights section of Echo Park has also upset many neighbors who fear it will bring the noise, trash and crime associated with other establishments that sell beer and alcohol.

Longtime neighborhood activist Susan Borden, who lives a short walk from Fix, has emerged as a leading opponent to Galluci’s effort to obtain a beer and wine permit. In an email to neighbors, Borden says:

This is the first step in turning our neighborhood from a residential one into a commercial one.  When he moved in three years ago Marc Galucci (FIX owner) could see that this is a residential not a commercial neighborhood.  He wants to change it.  All along Echo Park Avenue businesses will try to get alcohol licenses and bring the club-goers up from Sunset.  Some people will enjoy that—they are [usually] the ones who are not adjacent to the businesses and don’t have to deal with the noise and trash. Most of us like the non-commercial nature of our canyon.

Galluci replies:

I understand that Susan is worried about the neighborhood changing but my feeling, and the feeling of hundreds (even thousands as we now have almost 2000 signatures on our Petition in favor of us serving wine and beer) is that this will be a tremendously positive thing for the neighborhood and for the Echo Park community. I am sincerely trying to be empathetic to our neighbors but unfortunately, as you know, you can’t make everyone happy but I will always continue to try.

Galluci will be hosting a 7 p.m. meeting at Fix on Wednesday, April 27 to discuss his plans and answer neighbors questions.  Click on the link below to read a full version of Borden email to neighbors and Galluci’s response.

Email from Susan Borden

To My Elysian Heights Neighbors:

FIX Coffee’s owner wants a license to serve Beer and Wine.  The owner (Marc Gallucci) is holding a meeting for the community at FIX on Wednesday, April 27 at 7:00 p.m. My husband and I live … around the block from FIX.  It’s nice to have a place to stop in for a cup of coffee.  It’s appropriate to the neighborhood.  However, I am against this alcohol license for several reasons.

  • Noise
  • Commercialization of our neighborhood
  • Too close to school
  • Too far from other late night activities-will draw them into residential area
  • Open too late
  • “Club” atmosphere
  • Parking problems
  • Truck deliveries

Noise
Loud groups of people noisily leaving a restaurant at night after a few drinks, often shouting to each other, are what we can expect, according to people in Echo Park who also live near trendy, late night places that sell beer and wine.  More trash and graffiti usually show up as well. After 8:00 p.m. this intersection (Baxter and Echo Park Ave.) shuts up for the night.  It is residential, peaceful and quiet, close to Elysian Park.  We often see coyotes and wild animals on the street.
Until you get down to Montana, almost to Sunset Blvd., nothing is open past 8:00 p.m. and only residents and their visitors have a reason to drive up into the hills.  With the place open until 11:00 at night we can expect much more traffic and plenty of noise, especially at closing time. The noise of FIX customers would completely change our nights, especially if customers use the outside patio area.

Elysian Heights School
Do we really want yet more beer and wine being sold right next to our elementary school?  On the other side of Elysian Heights elementary school the first business that students pass as they leave school is a windowless market whose front wall reads “Beer and Wine” in huge letters.  Isn’t it a much better lesson if they see adults enjoying drinking coffee rather than alcohol in public?  Any alcohol should be drunk inside the building only.

Commercializing a residential neighborhood
This is the first step in turning our neighborhood from a residential one into a commercial one.  When he moved in three years ago Marc Galucci (FIX owner) could see that this is a residential not a commercial neighborhood.  He wants to change it.  All along Echo Park Avenue businesses will try to get alcohol licenses and bring the club-goers up from Sunset.  Some people will enjoy that—they are usally the ones who are not adjacent to the businesses and don’t have to deal with the noise and trash. Most of us like the non-commercial nature of our canyon.

Nightclubs
Customers will not just be neighbors on foot.  To make it a success, FIX will have to entice people to drive here, most likely from Sunset Boulevard.  The largest group of people in Echo Park in the evenings are the club patrons. Let’s not give the rowdies a reason to drive up Echo Park Avenue at night. The trendy, club atmosphere is better suited to Sunset Boulevard than Elysian Heights.

Parking
Adding even more vehicles travelling to FIX will really have an adverse impact on residents. Parking is already so tight that Elysian Heights Elementary staff park their cars on the school’s front lawn and the red curb. Few homes have off-street parking; when residents drive home at night they need the street parking. The intersection is heavily travelled by school buses, the elementary school staff and parents dropping off students, as well as the pre-school parents.  The school has to have staff directing parents where to drop kids off, as the streets are so narrow.  This intersection is in a canyon with hillside streets that have restricted parking as they are so steep.

Truck deliveries
Beer and wine must be delivered.  This intersection is very narrow and already congested.  I have seen trucks double-parked at 10:30 a.m. making deliveries to FIX  so that traffic has to wait.  How many more trucks will be coming, how late will they arrive and where will they park?  Trucks should be required to unload only inside FIX’s lot.

If you share my concerns, please call Councilman Eric Garcetti (213-473-7013, [email protected]) and/or his planning deputy, Katherine Hennigan (213-473-7013, [email protected] ).

Response by Marc Galluci, Fix Coffee owner

On Wednesday, April 27th, 2011 at 7:00 at FIX COFFEE we will be holding a Town Hall meeting for the neighborhood.  The intent of the meeting will provide a forum for people to express their opinions.  Although we will answer the questions we know for certain we can indeed answer at the present time with certainty, we will not have firm responses to all issues raised until we”ve had a chance to listen to what people say at that time.  We will present the following basic information at that time:

  • Addition of Full Dinner Service
  • Wine and beer application
  • Additional Bathroom and Kitchen / Food Prep area
  • Currently allowed Hours of Operation of 7:00 am to 11:00 pm, daily
  • Parking is provided at FIX as per Code
  • Staff shall be properly trained as per the requirements of the Office of the Zoning Administrator

With specific regards to Susan’s note, I took time to face to face, one on one with Susan about a week ago, prior to her sending this note.  I explained in detail to her about our plans as noted above including our later hours, addition of dinner service, hand selected wines and artisan beers, etc and she chose to only focus on the alcohol aspect of our plans.  I understand that Susan is worried about the neighborhood changing but my feeling, and the feeling of hundreds (even thousands as we now have almost 2000 signatures on our Petition in favor of us serving wine and beer) is that this will be a tremendously positive thing for the neighborhood and for the Echo Park community.

I am sincerely trying to be empathetic to our neighbors but unfortunately, as you know, you can’t make everyone happy but I will always continue to try.



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52 comments

  1. jeez lady. he only wants to be open till 11pm. let the people have a meal and a drink in the neighborhood. this ain’t brentwood.

  2. I’ve never been able to find a parking spot in Fix’s lot. I always have to find street parking nearby, which is not difficult during the day, but I can see how it might be tougher at night when nearby residents get home from work.

  3. As a resident of Elysian Heights/ Solano Canyon, it’s quite frustrating to see small business owners gentrify and commercialize our neighborhood. This canyon is rich in L.A. culture and history, why ruin it with local water holes that are only important to a very few. In fact, I’m curious as to how many signees are actual residents of the canyon.

    Some people define redevelopment much different than others…In this case, it’s about a local business owner trying to “expand” without minding the concerns of long time residents.

    Let’s not fake the funk here…This so called “community meeting” on Wednesday is just a formality. The owner doesn’t truly care about the community it serves, he’s just trying to monetize the new wave of hipsters in the area. Sigh.

  4. Susan means well but the days of fighting the Suku Suku club are long gone. Echo Park is a commercial strip and has been since the inception of the neighborhood. As someone who lives a few blocks away from both The Park restaurant and the Short Stop bar, it is the bar customers that frustrate, not The Park patrons. There is a big difference between the two. FIX has enhanced Susan’s neighborhood and will continue to do so with the owner’s new investment.

  5. I think the mistake Susan and other opponents are making is comparing this venture to rowdier bars like Gold Room and Short Stop, as opposed to places like El Prado or The Park – both beer and wine bars that draw a quieter, subdued crowd. I live a few blocks from Fix – the notion that serving beer and wine there until 11pm will yield a “nightclub” atmosphere is laughable. Most people will probably just end up studying/working into the later hours – frankly, it’s about time we have a coffeeshop in the neighborhood that doesn’t close at 7pm.

  6. I’m not sure that Fix really fits into the “trendy club atmosphere” scheme of things. There are places that would probably be sort of unwelcome in that area and understandably so, but I’m guessing this will be sort of low-key and folks would just enjoy a quiet conversation and a glass of beer or wine, and (somewhat modest proposal) it might be nice for kids to see that adults can actually enjoy such drinks and handle them maturely. If you’re actually worried about graffiti or crime, I assume you imagine that the patrons of a small quiet cafe serving wine and beer are the exact same as the patrons of Yankee Doodle’s.

  7. I live up the hill from FIX. It’s a wonderful cafe, and I am thrilled that they might be open later in the evening for a drink with neighbors. The idea that they would draw a loud Short Stop-type crowd is off-base. I think a better comparison would be places like The Park, AYC, and Elf Cafe. I do agree that parking could become a problem. Perhaps they could work out an arrangement with the DASH bus lot down the street?

  8. If, as Christina says, it’s anything like The Park, then I welcome it. Perfect ambiance for the neighborhood.

  9. I disagree with anyone who asserts that the owner truly doesn’t care about the community. I met him at a community meeting 2+ years ago that had no direct impact on his business. To me, that’s someone who is working to be involved in their community in a positive way.
    Also, I live 2 blocks away from FIX and signed the petition in support. Just because some aren’t good neighbors doesn’t hold any bearing on whether FIX will be. And I think a business of this scale in the neighborhood open later will be a positive draw rather than a negative one. It’s a friendly place – I’ve had conversations with and met some neighbors here – that adds to the positive community feel for me.
    Plus, it’s a little laughable to me to call this a bucolic corner of Elysian Heights when in addition to schools it also is home to some of the most rampant gang activity in our neighborhood.

  10. There are many commercial venues up and down Echo Park Ave. Some dormant some active. The fact remains it is commercially zoned. Now as a neighborhood, wisely we encourage good businesses, we support them and keep them in business. EP Cycles closed because not enough customers were spending money there. Cookbook is expanding, which shows the customer support.

    I look forward to having a spot i can walk to from my home in Elysian Heights in the evening. Not having to get in the car and drive is a luxury i will be grateful for–
    I believe Marc to be a person of integrity who intends to stand by his business and it’s reputation in the neighborhood. Any business that gets a CUB (Conditional Use Beverage license), approved, has a mandatory 1 year revue that if the business is proven derelict, can result in the CUB being rescinded.
    Now the irony will be, how many folks walk to the meeting, and who drives!?

    cp

  11. i think Susan needs a drink.

  12. another neighbor

    Of all the concerns raised I think parking is the biggest.

    I can’t imagine Fix having a “trendy club atmosphere”, they don’t have live music beyond a few people playing on the occasional Sunday afternoon. There’s not much about the place to draw the under-30 partygoing crowd. If you ever hang out there you’ll see most of the people are over 40. The main reason to go there now is that it’s local and it’s relatively quiet. It would be lovely to have a meal and a glass of wine there in the evening.

  13. Speaking as a long time East Los Angeles resident, pre-gentrificaton, I don’t see anything wrong with what is being proposed if they are good neighbors like The Park, AYC, and Elf Cafe. Also, I’m speaking not as a single person, but someone with a family.

  14. I think it’s probably tough for independent coffeehouses to survive in this economy (and to compete with Starbucks). Think of all the independent coffeehouses in the area that have bitten the dust (the Onyx and Psychobabble on Vermont are two that come to mind, though I’m sure there are others). In order to turn a profit, many restaurants rely on beer and wine sales. Too bad there’s not a way to give a conditional alcohol permit that lasts for a year, after which the restaurant would have to reapply and community members could say “yay” or “nay” depending on how the first year went.

  15. I’ve thought hard about this and I just don’t think that Fix’s serving drinks with dinner is a threat to the character of the neighborhood. I’m sure they would be willing to establish some policies that permit them to stop serving if clients get rowdy (though I don’t think it’s likely that they’ll draw such a crowd or entice any dives to try to set up business in the area).

  16. It’s silly to believe that adding beer & wine sales won’t change FIX’s client demographic… I’ve been to FIX, it’s a lovely place BUT (unfortunately) this can and will change the character of the community. It would set a precedent for more of the same types of businesses to infiltrate. Music & alcohol go hand in hand…It won’t be long before a neighborhood dj starts hosting the “coolest happy hour in Echo Park”… Keep the booze south of Montana Ave. and keep serving your awesome coffee.

    P.S. I love Delilah’s Bakery, good sweets and great brunch! And they don’t have to stay open late or serve alcohol to be successful.

  17. As long as FIX does not promote the sale of beer and wine, like happy hour or specials of any sort, I’d think this a good thing. Just don’t exploit the fact you serve alcohol. Think of it as being serendipitous for diners.

  18. Sometimes there are those of us in the neighborhood who want a place that serves coffee and alcohol late. Chango closes pretty early for coffee and Delilah’s Bakery closes early as well. Music and alcohol are not always a nasty combination (sorry, I’m a musician with a Bachelor’s in Music, I’m a mother, a wife and I enjoy mixology). We’re not talking the new Spaceland. I suppose that we’ll all find out in the community meeting on Wednesday and give FIX their time to have their say on things. An open discussion with ear and minds at the ready.

  19. An eatery like The Park serving beer & wine is not a problem. A bigger problem for folks like Susan Borden will be the Sunset Beer Company opening around the corner which will serve beer, beer and more beer. That means drunks pissing on your lawn. Cheers!

  20. @JAMES

    Actual James, that’s exactly how it does work. So, if in fact it does cause troubles, should it be approved, the documentation of non-compliance to their permit would indeed result in the loss of the approval at their 1 year review.
    cp

  21. I think having a small-scale thriving business on EP avenue is an asset to our neighborhood. I’m glad to see Fix doing well – and I don’t see that serving wine/beer until 11 pm, is going to be a negative . If anything, it fills a need that’s missing from that part of our area, which is obviously why the owner is looking to do it. I live just up the street, and I signed the petition.

  22. i don’t drink, I don’t like drunks, i’m not a hipster, i have kids and am concerned about what happens around them, i’ve lived in Echo Park for a long time and as far as I can see this can only be a good thing.

    Park is a great addition to our neighborhood and I can see Fix being much the same. Hipster kids like to feel urban and gritty when they’re drinking, Fix doesn’t fit the bill for that sort of activity, and it will be a mellow scene no doubt. I signed the petition and I think we should support this. as previously mentioned, if it creates problems, we raise hell and get it shut down after a year.

  23. I don’t know these loud, obnoxious party-pits that Susan and Vanessa seem to frequent. They certainly aren’t my style, so I can’t speak to their bar-going experience.

    Personally, I like to drink good beer in quiet places where I can enjoy a civilized conversation or get some reading done. And I’m definitely looking forward to finally having a low-key place to hang out closer to home.

  24. So far, Marc has demonstrated that he has vision for our neighborhood and has already turned FIX into a vibrant community hub. I live nearby and hope that one day I can walk down to sample the yummy food and beverages he has in mind for the evening hours.

  25. These are the sorts of problems that unduly prohibit a goodtime. As a band, many of you, I imagine, have never heard of, sings “Stop! We are Good-times!” —Electric Six

    Because we have to stop in order to start, an irruption brings not what is merely novel, but virtual unheard of, before… as old ideologies melt away, we can then be reborn, even if its just a few bear as a coffee spot, pretty standard in most of the US, as is our experience…

  26. I don’t think we need more alcohol. Sunset is not too far to walk for that drink.

  27. The great part about this section of Urban Echo park is that it still feels residential.

    This the first step to night life on Echo Park ave. It will bring more nightlife.

    I do not know of any business owner that will reject busy and profitable. If it stays small and quaint it will not stay in business. This is a big change for the neighborhood and a huge change for those of us who purchased property in a residential neighborhood to raise our families. Commercial activity in the daytime has been fully embraced but nightlife is much different.

    I feel Mark will do all he can to to make it the best place possible but there are things that are simply out of his hands. All commercial environments create issues – noise, parking concerns, theft, trash, etc.

    The commercial zoning of this building does not entitle it for alcohol use. When alcohol is served people get louder. This has nothing to do with being drunk…but just louder. With outdoor seating and in a canyon this will effect many people.

  28. Love Fix. Have been happy its there from the start. Love wine. Beer, could take it or leave it. Truly would love to support this business owner but have to say I just don’t think serving alcohol at this location is a good fit for the surrounding neighborhood.
    And parking??

  29. Fix is a great asset to the neighborhood and Mark is a nice guy, but it is absolutely NOT the right venue for a liquor license or late night hours.

    I can understand why many of you don’t see the harm, but this will impact the immediate neighbors in a MAJOR way. We are not trying to be difficult but PLEASE try to understand how this is going to RADICALLY affect our quality of life. This is not just an inconvenience, but will be life changing.

    All of us who live behind FIX enjoy the peaceful quiet. We moved far away from Sunset for this very reason. Any sort of outdoor social outings echo up there like it were going on in our own backyard. Every now and then is fine, but I am not willing to accept this 7 nights a week. I especially feel for the multiple families that live RIGHT BEHIND FIX who have small children who are used to going to bed early. Please, if you are a parent, really think about how you would feel if this was your home life that was affected in this way. We also have people on this street who have lived here for over 40 years who are sick over this.

    Don’t even get me started on parking. We have our share of issues here as it is. The hills are so steep that we only have access to one side of the street. We have elderly people who have lived on this street for 40+ years that will potentially have to park down the hill and walk because evening patrons have parked on our street. It’s just not worth it. These cherished members of the community should not have to worry about these sorts of things. Again, how would you feel if this was your elderly parent???

    I genuinely wish Mark all the success and am confident he will find other ways to grow his business, but this is not the solution.

  30. Everyone lecturing us about parking and the nature of sound in the canyon, could you at least acknowledge that many if not most of the people you are lecturing actually live in the immediate area, and that we walk to Fix?

    We know what the sound is like. We know what the parking is like. We know what Fix is like. So when you try to scare-monger us with nightmares of drunken teenagers yelling from their cars as they circle for parking in the middle of the night looking for the all-night dj party, you diminish whatever point you’re trying to make.

    No one is going to drive up to Fix in search of an all-night dj party, circling endlessly looking for parking — those people are going to find easy parking on Sunset and go to a bar that’s open late.

    You are talking to your neighbors. We live here too. We want to walk to a local cafe and have a drink with dinner. You may not want that to happen — and if that’s how you feel, that’s fine. But please, at least treat us with at least enough respect to be honest about exactly what you are fighting against.

  31. Aldo Thee Apache

    I find it laughable that the same people who take issue with Fix ‘commercializing’ the neighborhood (where it has been commercially zoned for decades) are always strangely silent anytime a new fast food chain or yet another predatory payday advance/check cashing place opens.

  32. The comments against this are sincere. There are family homes directly next door.
    Not talking about any sort of nightmare scenario to do with loud or drunken people.
    Simple patio noise of dinner patrons will be enough to be a problem for the people who live within feet of there. And again – parking, parking, parking.

  33. “Not talking about any sort of nightmare scenario to do with loud or drunken people.
    Simple patio noise of dinner patrons will be enough”

    Shirley, thank you for your honesty. This opposition is not about booze-fueled debauch — it is about opposing a small neighborhood cafe.

    Now if you could just acknowledge that most of the customers at Fix live in the neighborhood and *walk* there.

  34. I do feel sympathetic for those that live nearby that might be bothered by noise, but hasn’t this always been a commercially zoned building? It only recently became a cafe but was a loft or something before and before that, wasn’t it car-related?
    Living next to a commercially zoned space means the possibility of a body shop banging on cars all day or (like me) living next to what is now an endless rotation of crappy galleries with loud weekly parties and patrons who pee in my yard.
    If I wanted to ensure peace and quiet, I’d live in a commercially restricted area. I’d rather hipsters not pee in my yard, but I moved next to a commercial building.
    I would think there is a compromise to be found here rather than a blanket no for Fix.

  35. Local
    You are correct is saying this is not mainly about the alcohol. The alcohol is the means to allow the cafe to be open late. There will be some residual effects from the alcohol but being open at night is the bigger issue.

    I live close enough to know that there is a steady flow of people getting in and out of their cars. Weather they live close or not I do not know but it has an impact on parking.

  36. Outdoor seating and booze what an amazing combination. If it gets too loud they cant even close the door to try to muffle the noise. How dare you residents who will have to deal with increased traffic, noise, trash the the hipsterizing boozification of your neighborhood complain. I mean you want peaceful enjoyment then move to a residential neighborhood in the hills somewhere.. oh wait.

    Once the booze license is issued its a free for all, FIX can advertise anyway they want to bring in the people and with the cost of licenses these days they’re going to need to get some butts in the seats.

    Seriously this hipster invasion crap has got to stop. Having tapenade at the Vons is not worth the increased annoyance but most of all noise of skinny jeans and flop flop wearing loud ass, party having boozing it up at the coffee house hipsters. Yeh i’m bitter, i want my quiet neighborhood back, i swear it was quieter when my neighbors were in gangs and had roosters. No lie.

  37. “You are correct is saying this is not mainly about the alcohol.”

    Again, thank you Darren for being honest and clear about what you oppose. Now if only the eastsider would change his dishonest and needlessly inflammatory title. It did the job of stirring up traffic generating outrage, but it framing everything as an argument is little help to the neighborhood.

    I’d like to also point out that every time I’ve been to Fix, there has been a screaming parrot right next door which is so loud, it can be difficult to have a conversation outside. It is far louder than anything I’ve ever heard coming from Fix. I hope local opposition to noise will soon be focusing on this menace to our peace and quiet.

  38. Lo, that’s a nice Bill Cosby impersonation. If only you could have fit a “with their puddin’ pops” into your rant it would have been spot on.

    Local, so glad you brought up the screaming parrot menace. It’s the first thing I thought of when reading all the complaints.

    I think the local’s fears are genuine, in that are really afraid of these things, but I also question how well grounded these fears are. I would like to point to AYC, just half a block off of sunset, that is a great local neighborhood meeting place that stays open late, and serves lots and lots of booze, and is not known for attracting a loud and rowdy crowd. If anything, it seems to attract the opposite.

    I can understand that the open-air nature Fix being a concern, maybe the simple act of however many tables dining outside until 10 or would be noisier than if it were inside, but I haven’t seen anybody ask about if there is a plan to do something about this, they just rail against weird worst case scenarios.

    And for those who say Sunset is close enough to walk to, I suppose that depends on where you live.

    Everyone on this forum who has supported the idea says it would be great to have a place to walk to in the neighborhood to get dinner and have a drink. Nobody has said “great now I can drive over from Silverlake and piss on people’s lawns after I got tossed”. I really think that those who are afraid aren’t very grounded in the reality. It’s not like if you added mimosas to Delilah’s brunch that the neighborhood would implode into debauchery.

  39. “I’m curious as to how many signees are actual residents of the canyon.”

    ::raises hand:: Resident. Make that long time resident. House, garage, two cars, baby and stroller. Love FIX.

  40. If you want a rowdy night, possible fight, and drunken hipster sightings, hit Sunset. A cool, mellow place for adults to enjoy a quiet conversation and beer would be great. It’s not going to attract the same crowd as what all these other people seem to be afraid of. Alcohol is not the enemy. Stupidity is.

  41. This neighborhood doesn’t necessarily need another restaurant, but it does need a late night coffee shop where people can study and work in a calm atmosphere.

    What I want to know is what kind of evening atmosphere are they going for? Will they maintain the coffee shop vibe where folks are still welcome to hang out, eat, drink and work? Or do they want to shift to table service at dinner and attract a restaurant crowd with quick party turn around?

    In either scenario, I don’t think the FIX will ever attract a rowdy crowd…

  42. If this dude wants to open a bar, open it on Sunset like everyone else not next to an elementary school. I can see this lady’s point. Cuz I’m totally the dude who would be pissing in her yard. ha ha

  43. Concerned but unsure...

    I can see this going both ways, it could turn out great o it could slowly become a major pain – but why chance it?
    Isn’t it nice to live in this neighborhood and have a nice home cooked meal? I don’t feel the need to go out to eat, when I do it’s nice to explore the city.
    Has Fix thought about trying the longer hours with just coffee and pastry treats?

  44. I think the lady with the obnoxious parrots next to FIX is more of a disruption to the neighborhood. Marc Gallucci and co. has brought style, chic & taste to that corner with the coffee, I think he’ll do it again with the dinner menu.

  45. 1) If you’re worried about the possibility of noise from Fix, but you don’t mind the godawful parrot, I sincerely doubt you live very close to Fix.

    2) What the hell is up with the pee obsession around here?

  46. Joe 1 blk from fix

    I have a 2 year old which will probably be going to the grade school across the street from fix and maybe the pre school across the street the other way and wow a montessori school next to the preschool! 3 schools not even a block from Fix! and a day care about a block south. It feels too close. I live a block from fix yes you can hear the parrot its disruptive people talking till 11pm outside will probably be just as disruptive. My kid goes to bed at 8-9pm we are a family and been living in EP for 18 years and wanted to live this deep into Echo Park to stay away from the noise of sunset. 1 person on our street has guests or a party when I come home I end up parking up to 2-3 blocks from my home and hear the noise and conversation on the street from inside my house, if you live here you know everything Echos and sound carries across our canyon. I’m against it, I don’t drink so I dont need a place to drink beer and wine near my house. Any smart business owner knows that this is not a good location limited parking, no real through traffic and schools next doors. This petition of 2000 signatures how come no one ever came to my door to ask me? i live a block away? I’m one of the neighbors that would be effected, makes me wonder who signed this petition and was it even signed by the immediate neighbors and what does the schools think of it? So I feel they weren’t considerate to me a neighbor. Go away and those of you fighting to have it go to AA or get off your butt and walk to Sunset.

  47. My family has lived in Echo Park for a long time. We have seen Echo Park grow and change. The change was difficult at first. Then when I started realizing that this hood was becoming a little more safer, where my kids can walk to school with out hearing gunshots going off it became easier to except the change! I don’t know where do people get off saying this is a quite place. The streets are not! When was the last time you people have been out of your house’s walking around the streets of Echo Park, Ewing, Fargo, Baxter and all the hills? How many killings have there been with in 3 blocks from this place? Stop lying to yourselves. Everyone knows what goes on after dark on the AVE. I welcome a nice place that has good food and drinks responsible. Good Luck Fix!

  48. Unfortunately, this isn’t about Fix and how nice the owner is. This is about a trend in our neighborhood and at what street to stop the progression of businesses and later hours. Where do we want to draw the line? Fix obtaining a beer/wine license absolutely is a game changer this far up into our neighborhood and what will come AFTER Fix is what we must be concerned about….and the owner of Fix cannot protect us from that. Perhaps he is not really being realistic about what this will engender nor are his patrons who don’t LIVE in the area – I can absolutely understand why outsiders would think “sure, we love this place and would love later hours to come here” they have a completely different perspective than homeowners in the area. Once this precedent is set…..there WILL BE MORE businesses wanting later hours or liquor licenses. We have to think about that….it’s not about only short-term concerns that are directly related to Fix but long-term repercussions for our RESIDENTIAL area.

    If Fix does get extended hours with a beer/wine license – It will most likely draw further development up Echo Park Avenue. It will set a precedent that will make it harder to fight future commercial businesses. Especially if it’s a successful endeavor, which of course the owner will hope to make it. The extended hours with beer and wine will turn adjacent properties into “potential goldmines” that developers will seek to buy and turn into commercial properties – because that’s what developers do! That will draw more businesses up the avenue with later hours and applications for beer/wine licenses because THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS. The question is – how far up the avenue do we want this. Baxter is such an obvious cut-off point. If Fix succeeds at this….developers will buy properties as they come up for sale and apply for zoning variances (which will be easier for them to obtain since Fix will have set a precedent with their usage). This trend will continue without any regard for the overall neighborhood. We all know how developers are….look at the disaster sitting next to Chango. Keep in mind the Fix owner is a nice guy and respectful but that doesn’t mean he can control what will come after his business establishes this change further into our neighborhood. This is a HIGHLY PRIVATE residential area above Baxter – about 1 mile from Sunset blvd. It’s not like it’s blocks away. This and what comes after it WILL change the neighborhood unless we assert that we don’t want it this far up Echo Park Avenue. This is a residential area and we WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. Allowing Fix to have later hours with beer/wine will take us in the opposite direction. Again, this goes way beyond liking Fix and the owner of Fix.

    Next, there is just NO PARKING! Even if you aren’t against the idea of more businesses here – you still need parking!!! I know of other businesses who can’t extend their hours due to lack of parking – so can I just say – how in the world can this even be considered on that corner? They can’t provide parking….isn’t there a law or ordinance that establishes the amount of parking an establishment must have?? There’s just no room for more cars. People who have bought property nearby deserve to be able to park. One thought, should we move for permit parking in the nearby area and then residents will be assured a space and the situation will take care of itself (regarding parking at least)? Might be an idea. No parking after 6 or 8pm like many areas have.

    Additionally, I can’t believe no one is talking about the nearby gang-affiliated houses and how unsafe it will be, at night, for the Fix patrons who are unfamiliar with some of the element still living on or near Echo Park Avenue (as they make their way to and from their cars). One fight over a parking spot with a tipsy, snotty hipster will equal a shooting – I can see it coming. Seems really foolish. I’ve found myself relieved over the years that Fix closes early, worried for them, due to proximity to some of the remaining unsavory characters who still reside/frequent a couple houses within a block or so of Fix. Staying open later will make them more of a target and put their night patrons at risk (especially ones who don’t know the area). This is a link to one of the shootings in the area….people affiliated with the shooting live practically right across the street from Fix. It’s from December 2010 and you can see in the photo where they have the street blocked off right up from Baxter and Echo Park Avenue – – right near Fix! http://echopark.patch.com/articles/police-christmas-day-shooting-gang-related There have been other incidents as well…just google echo park avenue gang shootings and the articles come up. It’s something else to keep in mind.

    For me, Baxter is the cut-off for night hours. Fix is lucky to be there nestled in our enclave and should leave it at that. It’s small and private and that’s the VERY FEEL we want. This isn’t the way to thank the neighborhood for our support – by initiating a beer/wine license so other businesses will be enticed to seek the same. If Baxter isn’t the cut-off, where will we draw the line? At least during the day people who live nearby are generally at work so they are not AS INCONVENIENCED by the parking and noise. But as I said, this change with Fix is just the start. Most of us who moved here and bought houses did it because we liked the privacy and solitude and we pay dearly for it – some of us upside-down in our mortgages – struggling for what we love. So Fix, sorry, I say no go. Not because we couldn’t find a way to deal with the inconveniences your expansion might/would cause – – but because it will set a precedent for more if your endeavor is successful. We simply don’t want it above Baxter! The cutoff for anything other than residential should be Baxter. Fix and the nursery school across the street should remain the sole exception but in their current operating capacity…nothing greater – no late hours – no beer and wine. And frankly, even with Fix in their current incarnation – – it sounds like the neighbors are already struggling with the parking….if you care about the area Fix – what are you going to do about that ?

    Lastly, I can’t believe anyone thinks they will be able to sit and study, drinking coffee at night (while dinner patrons potentially wait for a table)! The dinner hours will not be for studying over a cup of coffee. Dinner hours and tables will be for people who are eating/drinking and spending more money (probably from outside the area) – not locals lingering over a cup of joe! The owner is expanding due to economic reasons (as any business does), not to provide cheap reading/hang out space for local peeps (that’s just naive). At any rate, that’s just amusing to me and neither here nor there.

    FYI, we are 3 adults sharing a house a few blocks away – not even directly impacted by the noise and we are still against the extended hours and alcohol due to the precedent it will set. Sorry Fix – we love you and your coffee but we have to look at the overall picture. We like you in our neighborhood as a little coffee place – but not a night place with beer and wine. We wouldn’t have moved into the hills if we wanted to be near night business. Stay the size you are or move further down Echo Park Avenue where more parking is available and the later hours make more sense.

  49. I completely agree with “nearby resident” — the gang houses make this area FAR TOO DANGEROUS for the existence of ANY nearby businesses! What we need to to to make this area safe is get rid of as many houses as possible! These houses are just TOO DANGEROUS!

    Sure, one house might have a nice owner. But what if the NEXT house does not? Or what if people who “don’t know the area” try to visit someone in one house, but end up going to the WRONG HOUSE?! I can definitely see a home resident shooting happening in that situation!

    Or maybe someone in a house will end up making the house LARGER, providing room for MORE GANGS to move in to the house?!

    Sorry house-dwelling people! We simply cannot risk having all these DANGEROUS HOUSES!

    Sorry, homeowners! You might be

  50. Local —

    Your passionate defense of Fix being allowed to serve beer and wine into the evening is certainly admirable, but by the 5th or 6th rebuttal/dismissal of neighbors concerns, you’re beginning to lose credibility and are starting to sound like someone who stands to profit from Fix’s alcohol license, rather than just a “local” who enjoys to drink beer.

    When I first heard about this, I’d say that I was leaning towards Fix’s side, agreeing that patrons at Fix are by and large a mellow group and probably wouldn’t bring the rowdiness of Sunset Blvd up the canyon.

    50 posts later on, I think I’m squarely on the other side. Primarily for 2 of the arguments made by “nearby resident” that you ignored, instead choosing to go after the straw-man of the nearby gang houses, which, I agree with you is not the nec’y the most realistic argument. However it was your rabid, patronizing rant against that that has brought this post…

    Although lack of parking is clearly an issue up there, the changes that Fix, and the neighborhood would undergo are undeniable both because of the economics of a beer/wine license, and what those economics will do to serve as a lure to other developers up Echo Park Ave.

    1.) Fix will have to bring in more paying customers to sell their booze to. Who those customers will be at this point is uncertain. One thing is certain is that it’s probably not going to be restricted to the locals in the neighborhood that make up Fix’s current mellow, respectful crowd.

    2.) If Fix isn’t successful, then there is no problem. If it is successful, then the developer vultures begin circling, and the approximation of country living in the big city that the canyons and the hills provide will be destroyed.

    Those are my 2, well reasoned, respectful, cents.

  51. PILGRIMS…..!!!!!!!!!!

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