Wednesday, October 26, 2016

Eastside Property: More house flips and horizontal fencing for Boyle Heights

Photo from Redfin

Holy horizontal fencing!   The flippers and their contractors have descended on Boyle Heights, with this newly listed duplex on St. Louis Street bearing several tell-tale signs of a house remodeled for flipping, including extensive use of horizontal wood slats that wrap around the front fence and front porch.

The investors purchased the nearly century-old property in March for $125,000 and are now, after some extensive renovations,  and are now seeking to sell it for $399,000, according to Redfin.  In addition to new horizontal fencing and stucco on the exterior,  the interior of the 1,200-square-foot building  received new flooring, roofing, electrical systems and, of course, stainless steel appliances, according to the listing.

The 1905 property is now being promoted as a “modern gem” and “designer duplex.”

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  1. Good luck not being burglarized when everyone knows that Whitey’s moved into town.

    Lovely property terrible neighborhood.

    • Before Boyle Heights was a Latino neighborhood it was a Jewish neighborhood. No single group owns the destiny of any neighborhood. Boyle Heights will gentrify just like gang infested holes before it (Echo Park, Downtown, Highland Park) etc.

  2. The same could have been said about many other eastside neighborhoods just a few years ago. The last 15 years have turned once “terrible” inner city areas into the latest up and coming urban hotspots. Remember what DTLA, Echo Park, Atwater, Glassell Park, Highland Park, were just a few years ago? Boyle Heights is no exception, as all the other mentioned areas become more unaffordable, houses like these serve young or lower wage professionals well. There aren’t many urban home options for a single person making under $80k these days.

  3. Bat – Boyle Heights is the real deal in terms of gangs/drugs/violence etc…….., unlike Echo Park, Atwater, Glassell Park, Highland Park…………..
    Those places already had a bit of mixed residents and proximity to nicer areas such as Eagle Rock, Los Feliz, Burbank etc……………….Boyle Heights has a few old Japanese and Jews……the rest of the population is puro Mexicano for the most part and has a strong vocal faction against gentrification as well as being home to L.A.’s oldest and most violent gangs ………………..
    The L.A.P.D. calls the Boyle Heights area between Wabash/Cesar Chavez & Soto/Evergreen the worst area in terms of drug sales/crime/gun violence in Los Angeles………..
    Boyle Heights will never reach the gentrification level of Echo Park, Highland Park, Atwater etc………
    Can you imagine a place like the York bar in Highland Park opening up in Boyle Heights? I don’t think so……………..

    • I agree, Boyle Heights is another animal. I was born in Echo Park(1983) and raised in Lincoln Heights and El Sereno. The majority of the neighborhoods were always somewhat safe and home to a lot of government workers. In fact, many home owners work for LA County and LA City. I grew with many Asians, white and fellow Hispanics but everybody knew that Boyle Heights was a totally different story. It a lot more crowded with multiple families living in a house.

      In response to there not being a lot of urban hosing. Yes, there are places but you just have to save a little more money. Don’t be in a rush to buy just because the area may be “hip”. There are more people moving into the Foothills were you have a small town feeling along with lower housing costs.

    • I live in Boyle Heights, have had no problems and every year more new people move onto our block. It’s happening, I’ve been watching it in real time. People are fixing up their houses, young professionals with graduate degrees. BH is no where near the worst crime area, ever hear of Athens or Watts? Search the LA times, DTLA, westlake, Venice, East Hollywood and cypress park all have a higher violent crime index than BH. It’s not the area it was in the 80’s.

      • As an actual member of the neighborhood, what do you think of this flip, the price tag 4 months ago and what these people are trying to get for it now?

      • I stand by my claim that BH (along with El Sereno & City Terrace) will not be gentrified like Atwater, Highland Park, Echo Park etc…..anytime in the near future……..it just won’t happen……..
        Sure, there will be the scattered few hipsters and returning graduate people etc……..but, that’s it…………
        It’s just too deep in those areas………..

        • Thats fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, only time will tell. I personally see and believe that the proximity to DTLA and the arts distric along with their developments makes the south end of BH prime real-estate. Not to mention the new 6th street bridge and other project coming down the line. But only time will tell until then ill leave you with just one of many hidden Boyle Heights jems that you guys don’t know about 😉


    • 1200 sq ft with 5 bedrooms and 2 baths! Really? And if it’s a duplex, it means 2 kitchens two, right? So those bedrooms must be tiny. It means all the rooms are tiny. Way over priced even for a duplex. And the renovation work is all wrong for the original architecture of the structure. It’s a huge fail and no one will buy it at that price in that location.

  4. Gangs are still very present in Boyle Heights. I saw some black dude walking around yelling something about being a Blood and trying to call out Cholos the other day. Tagging is coming up more and more lately too. Especially around where this house is.

    You can fit 6 people into a 2 bedroom. Buy it and rent it out for $1100. That’s about the going rate for rent in this area for 2 full families.

    Can’t believe these flippers bought for $125k and are trying to sell it for $399k. Even if they put $100k into the property, they’re trying to profit over $150k. In Boyle Heights?!?! Don’t be stupid. Can’t wait for this ridiculous bubble to pop.

  5. Dangerous, disgusting, gang infested and any other word used to described this area doesn’t matter. It’s worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Of course it’s a lot of money based on it’s location, but if you aren’t willing to head 20 miles east on the 10 fwy…that’s what you’re getting.

  6. Boyle Heights is a very uneven community. There are some areas that do show gentrification. For example, the area around the Mariachi Plaza where there is a new subterranean gold line station. There are also some great old home on Boyle and surrounding streets. Many can be considered mansions they are so big and beautiful though many need a lot of work. But the bones are good.

    The local officials and residents need to start a campaign to renovate Hollenbeck Park just like they did with Echo Park. Hollenbeck has a beautiful lake too and once had paddle boats as well. Very similar to the Lincoln Heights park, but I think Hollenbeck is bigger than both Echo Park and the Lincoln Heights park.

  7. Boyle Heights is a great neighborhood. Gangs are everywhere, but this area of Boyle Heights is mostly working class Latino families who own their properties. They take pride in their houses. There is great housing stock, Queen Anne and Victorian’s that just need some TLC. There are great storefronts on Ceasar Chavez and 1st St, close proximity to DTLA, the gold line, Hollenbeck Park…a future walkable community. Just a matter of time. White Memorial Hospital has spent over 100 million dollars expanding and improving their facilities and USC is spending a billion dollars at County Hospital… and piggyback yards will someday soon be developed into one of the best urban parks in the country. Although I think this house is about 70K overpriced, BH is a pretty safe bet.

    • What do you mean FUTURE walkable community? It’s a walkable community right now. Just because there are stores and restaurants that you don’t like, doesn’t mean the other people in the neighborhood don’t use and appreciate them.

      You’ve probably been here for 6 months, don’t knock the things that make this place great.

  8. I really dont see anyone buying this house for that price. If you find yourself moving to Boyle Heights then most likely its because you cant afford that sticker price in another neighborhood. Its grossly overpriced.

    That being said, I would buy this house if it was significantly less….I love BH, and I dont have much fear living in this neighborhood. I am Latina so maybe thats why it doesnt bother me, and well lets just face it, most of the time its just a matter of xenophobia which is why some people dont want to move there. For the most part I walk around here to go visit friends, we go for drinks and dinner late at night and I really dont have a problem. Sure there are gangs, but they dont bother me. Maybe Im desensitized, maybe I just am not scared of anything anymore, I dont know. But I always found getting to know your neighbors is key, once you do that you maybe wouldnt be so terrified to live in this neighborhood.

    • I don’t think it’s fair to blame xenophobia for peoples’ reluctance to buy a house in Boyle Heights; I’d blame the L.A. Times Homicide Report before I’d claim any type of discrimination. Also, please keep in mind that a Latina woman out for a night on the town is going to have a vastly different experience when she passes a group of gangsters than a young white, Latino, or black man will have.

  9. I agree, xenophobia is at play—Boyle Heights is a nice neighborhood. Excellent proximity to downtown, beautiful old buildings, a thriving arts community, and options for good food (restaurants and farmer’s market). Echo Park and Highland Park also have active gangs in the area, yet people are willing to pay three times what this house is priced at. Additionally, transport options in Echo Park are pitiful. Often is a case of perceptions and it’s worth doing a bit of homework. Having said that, this particular house is overpriced and poorly renovated. It’s ugly.

  10. I moved in BH this past September, specifically into that area El Jefe says LAPD has identified as the most prevalent for violence and gang activity. I haven’t been approached once by anybody claiming to be a gang member, I have heard gun shots and helicopters over my house, but I am not afraid to walk the streets at night or have their been more crime then the area in Echo Park I was living in before. And it’s the only neighborhood I’ve ever lived in where so many people say good morning or hello to me as I walk around.

    • Again, Boyle Heights will never be gentrified to the level of HP, EP, Silverlake, Atwater…etc……..that’s all I’m sayin’ and I’ll say it again……………….can you imagine a York bar or Wombleton Records in Boyle Heights? It won’t happen……………………………..
      If you looked anything like a gangmember (brown, short hair etc…..) you would have been hit up already………..just watch out for the crossfire/stray bullets.

      • Correction, I meant to say the area described is the worst in East Los Angeles………not Los Angeles…………..

      • This area has a shop selling records

        Espacio 1839

        A bookshop

        Seite Books

        and a pretty popular bar

        Eastside Luv

        I don’t see why there won’t be more.

      • “can you imagine a York bar or Wombleton Records in Boyle Heights? It won’t happen……………………………..”

        We already have our own versions, Eastside Luv and Espacio 1839

        • Look at the clientele and types of shows both these places put on compared to what’s happening in HLP. I like it WAY better here.

        • EastSideLuv and Espacio are for Chipsters (Chicano Hipsters)/Muppies (Mexican Yuppies)………. I think you both can tell the difference between a bar in Highland Park overrun w/white hipsters (for the most part) every weekend/weeknight + Wombleton (record shop that specializes in one hit wonder bands from the UK) and East Side Luv and Espacio 1839.

          • Because only Chicano hipsters are in to the Smiths, New Order and Francoise Hardy? (I’ve seen all of those at Espacio) I’m pretty sure more people will come from outside of the neighborhood to check out these places as more of them pop up, ie. Guisado’s.

            Hipsters and Yuppies of Mexican descent would still be gentrification anyway. It’s a matter of class more than race. Have you ever been to Teresita’s? The parking lot cracks me up alone, often I see only luxury cars and Hummers in there, mostly people commuting in to East Los to the Civic Center from what I’ve gathered. It’s the only place where I’ve seen Chicanos wearing sweaters tied around their necks like Alex P. Keaton. And I’ve heard actual conversation about how the neighborhood has changed, about people moving back after having moved further out to places like Alhambra.

            And if more of that happens you’ll still have problems of rent and property values climbing, low income families being pushed out, more corporate business (two Starbucks in East LA), etc. For better or worse all neighborhoods are in flux.

      • Dark brown skin, I keep a fade, and I wear sports apparel on a regular basis.

        So I think I fit the stereotype. Never been hit up.

      • It won’t gentrify as quickly, but it will happen. Boyle Heights and City Terrace have always been directly affected by what’s going on in DTLA. The almighty dollar is even tougher than the gangs and you will see some major changes over the next 15 years. Buy low now and be patient. Make sure you get a place with good bones and a view, mark my words, the value will double in 15 years.

        I’m wondering if maybe El Jefe is a renter that doesn’t want to be priced out. There’s no rent control in unincorporated Los Angeles. I do wonder where all of the families that are renting now will go. This will be great for the homeowners but not so great for the renters.

  11. I really hope this neighborhood doesn’t lose its charm or sense of history as the hipsters start to move in. We don’t need any “vintage boutique” clothing stores charging $50 for used apparel. If people move in that actually CARE about the neighborhood and where it’s coming from, then that’s great. It would be really sad to see long time residents outpriced of an area they’ve known their whole lives.

    People from the Real EastSide need to continue to reinvest in the communities that created them. It’s happening from within the locals. We need to keep it up.

    This house is still way overpriced and the photos actually make it look better than it is in reality.

  12. Xenophobia? Really? With the racism that implies? So folks not wanting to BUY a home in an area known for gangs, low diversity and low median income are xenophobic? I’d say they are quite smart. C’mon latino shock troops of gentrification, get in there and git ‘er done!



  13. I bought a home and moved to City Terrace in ’08. I had a ton of reservations even though I grew up on Woods in East LA. But my wife grew up here and said it would be good to move back to the community as young professional educated Latinos. I opposed because I wanted a neighborhood with walkability and a coffee shop or diner I can grab a bite to eat. Well I don’t have any of that yet, but what I do have are great neighbors a park I take my daughter so she can play and a 10 min drive from DTLA and almost anywhere. I’ve talked to some folks who moved here because of its proximity to USC medical and DTLA. I’ve met a few Dr’s and Nurses from USC who moved in the past 2 years because CT is pretty much close to everything. I hear the gun shots and the Mean Green Sheriff’s helicopter here and there, but NO ONE in the past 5 years has ever fu**ed with me nor my family. Everyone says hello, even the Cholos, who are nicer than the westside folks! To El JEfe, CT will become slightly gentrified as well as Boyle Heights because of its proximity to DT. I see the 10fwy everyday packed and thank baby Jesus I live 10min from work via Street/FWY. The only problem I have is I need my house to go up in value (I bought for 285k) so I can add a pool because I’m not going anywhere and some decent shops on City Terrace Drive so I can grab a bite to eat. I welcome anyone to my ‘hood! We are good people!

    • I love City Terrace and lived there for a number of years. Best views of L.A. along w/Lincoln Heights and El Sereno. But, you will see zero in terms of “decent shops” and places to eat. There will be a bit in Boyle Heights but CT is a different kind of place.

  14. I moved to City Terrace about 3 years ago and I have seen rents and home values rising steadily in this area. There are more non Latinos like me moving into East L.A. every month. Housing is still affordable here as compared to the rest of the city but it will not be for long. As downtown Los Angeles continues to grow and generate employment people who work downtown but cannot afford to live there are going to need affordable housing. Echo Park and Silverlake are already priced way too expensive. East Los Angeles is the next logical place for gentrification. You are starting to see the earliest signs of it now. Crime is way down in East L.A. especially in City Terrace. An aggressive LAPD and Sheriffs Dept have made this happen. Higher rents are also pushing out the poor. I have seen one bedroom apts in City Terrace renting for 1200 a month now. I am very happy here. My neighbors are longtime residents who take pride in their homes and are very nice people.

  15. It looks like El Jefe didn’t do his research before making assumptions about Boyle Heights. Eastsider mentioned a few very cool places to visit in BHTS. As stated above- Higland Park, Echo Park and DTLA had MAJOR gang and drug problems 5-10 years ago. You can clearly see the exact changes happening in BHTS that were happening in HLP and EP over the past 10 years. I’m glad to see positive change taking place and welcome diversity on the east side. If you’re looking for trouble, you can find it in any of the neighborhoods mentioned above. If you mind your own business and be mindful of your surroundings, you won’t have any issues walking through BHTS. Any neighborhood that borders DTLA will eventually see “gentrification”, there’s no way aound it. Change is good; people need to embrace it and see the beauty of the ability to evolve. Nothing wrong with seeing neighborhoods that were once run down and beat-up, transform into places where peole take pride in the place they call home.

    • Not making assumptions. I lived in the area for over a decade and know it well……
      Witnessed firsthand the Sunday afternoon with kids playing in the street drive-bys, roommates being hit up on the sidewalk outside the pad, being shot at for no reason driving home after latenight wknds………
      Those areas will simply never be gentrified like all the others. The others were ripe for gentrification because of their locales and racial makeup etc……… Yeah, Boyle Heights may have some new shops opening up here and there but it won’t become gentrified anywhere near the level of the others.

      • As someone who hung out in Silverlake and Echo Park back in the 90’s, I think you’re pretty off the mark. Who would have ever thought Los Globos would gentrify? I’ve driven down Sunset and ducked because there were people on the corner with guns drawn. Now it’s all hipsterfied.

        There are many downtown and east side bar owners buying up the Boyle Heights dive bar liquor licenses from the current owners of the bars in anticipation of gentrification. The current owners are still operating their businesses like usual but will be completely bought out as soon as the time is right. Once the neighborhood hits a tipping point, you will see it gentrify like wild fire. The gangs will just have to find another neighborhood to hang out in just like all the central areas of LA.

        • Again, Boyle Heights and City Terrace will not gentrify like Silverlake and Highland Park. Period. If you truly know the areas it’s not hard to see.
          Locale/racial make-up/population + density of the neighborhoods have everything to do with gentrification.

          • With that logic the area should still be mainly Jewish or Chinese. It will take a while for the landscape to change drastically but it also did for Silverlake and Highland Park. People would rather live in a culturally diverse area than the suburbs these days. Don’t underestimate the power of the Urban Pioneer.

          • You mean, Japanese. And, of course I don’t mean the area/actual earth itself is not susceptible to gentrification…………it’s the current makeups that prevent it.

            Silverlake and Highland Park were ripe for gentrification because of each of their respective histories. And, based on your Chinese comment I’m not sure you are familiar w/the history of any of the areas you are commenting on.

          • Aurora, your mistake of saying Chinese instead of Japanese shows that you don’t know much about Boyle Heights. The Japanese have a long-standing stake in this hood.

            When you say people would rather live in a culturally diverse area compared to the suburbs these days, I think you mean white people. Us non-white people have been living in culturally diverse areas for a long time now. And really, the power of the Urban Pioneer? You aren’t pioneering anything, this area already has a history. Get off your high horse.

          • “If you truly know the areas it’s not hard to see.
            Locale/racial make-up/population + density of the neighborhoods have everything to do with gentrification.”…..”Silverlake and Highland Park were ripe for gentrification because of each of their respective histories”

            That’s just flat out false. Gentrification doesn’t happen because of history, density, ethnic locale, or any of the other thing you mentioned. Gentrification happens because of economics and convenience. People grew tired of driving from the OC, IE, SGV, SFV into Los Angeles for work and or play. And as a result neighborhood have seen an influx of new residents who have been driving up home prices and changing the demographics of the area. There were a few “livable” non ghetto areas back in the day but those quickly became unaffordable because they were highly desired. People began to move into near by “undesirable” areas because they were just as convenient as the desirable area and they were more affordable, not because they were ethnic or had some special history. Its just a simple case of time and money, can I live close to the things I want to and not go broke doing so. Poorer areas are the victims of this because the population there typically aren’t home owners and low prices leave them vulnerable to being bought out, thats it. Having some type of ethnic culture or desirable history ends up being a secondary bonus, but it’s not the cause or the primary reason for areas turning around, it is location and affordability.

        • Sounds like you know about the buying of liquor licenses personally. Are acquaintances of yours going to be taking over the old neighborhood dive bars? Tell them to keep the historic charm of Boyle Heights and not change it into something mundane like areas of Echo Park, Silver Lake, and Highland Park have become.


          • @angelino

            I’ll take mundane over gunshots & gangbangers any day of the week.

          • Pachuccos and Zoot Suits, is what this city is all about. Check out the history of this city, and come to the realization. God willing the gun shots that are being fired, turn into something for a better cause. This is a sad situation, and people need to see who is really the oppressors. The gang life style is not going to change, it is culturally embedded. Or influenced, but we need to put that energy towards those who really want ours to fail. Chicanos are not leaving this city, or changing their life style for any type of gentrification. Get over it, and learn how to accept diversity! You have to see me on Echo Park, and Sunset! No gang injunction is going to change this, or no haters from another state. They better start building more warehouses in the State of California, to put me and my kind all away. But, until then deal with it! Echo Parque y Palo Verde!

          • @scholaris

            You rarely make any sense. Are you drinking when you post? How you came to all of those conclusions from the one sentence I typed is beyond me. Maybe if you actually travelled outside of your neighborhood, you would realize the city is much more than gang culture or zoot suits.

            Gangs do more to oppress Chicanos in a year than the LAPD could do in a decade. Gangs are not culture, they are a sign of failure. Stop trying to make excuses for criminals.

            You’re the one who should pick up a history book.

          • Windowpane, it is not that I don’t make sense, it is you don’t know how to read between the lines! You are maybe to dense or not very optimistic to see the point I was trying to make. I don’t think gun shots or gang are the problem at hand. I think the gentrifier is the problem, for the people I so dearly love. I don’t know why you have twisted this article into a gang problem, when it comes to gentrification. I guess everyone needs a scapegoat or an excuse for their actions,right. Did that make sense, or does sense have to fall out of the sky and land on your head.

          • @scholaris

            name one single positive thing gangs bring to the equation. I have not twisted anything into a gang problem. You constantly glorify loser gangs and promote their way of life on here. You have tried telling me of “old school wisdom” from the lifers in the penitentiary. Let me tell you that if any of those locked up old schoolers had wisdom, they wouldn’t be doing life sentences in the first place. Wisdom from 3rd strike losers, how ironic.

            Your posts rarely make sense. You will tolerate violent slimeball gangbangers but you won’t tolerate someone coming in and fixing up a house that’s been neglected for decades? And you are telling ME to accept diversity? You’re a hypocrite and sound no different than the racist & xenophobic whites of the 50s.

            No one wants to get rid of normal people. We want CRIMINALS OUT!
            What part of that do you keep failing to understand over and over again?

          • Maybe I feel so adamant about these feelings I express, due to the fact I am on this gang injunction list. Also, the corrupted cop that introduced the proposal, got his information from a slime ball gang member himself, that somehow is not on the list. I come from the era of the Rampart scandal, and have little respect for them. Not, only that but have seen people walk freely around here without a care in the world, why I dodge bullets and police! And am also subjected to ridicule, from outsiders that are totally lacking knowledge of the matter at hand. While our kids are being harassed, I see groups of drunken fools parading around here without a care in the world. That is why I am who I am, so what’s your excuse!
            Oh, and about reading a history book, I don’t like some of the history that was written by man. I would rather read like a self help book, and work some empathy to better myself! Not only that, but listen to the current history that the elders have actually lived through.

      • I’m being serious when I say you might want to move to a different part of East LA. I’m 30 and lived here my whole life and I’ve never had any of those 3 things happen to me.

        I see and hear the cops overhead all the time, I see them blocking of streets and pulling people out of houses, I’m aware of the rampant drug problems among others. But being shot at directly for no reason is not a common experience for myself or anyone I know.

  16. I had a good time living in City Terrace, about 10 years, top of the hill as it were, above Pomeroy. It was a lot of fields and scattered houses, the old mansion off of Dickson was still inhabited by the old lady. Drove up there a month ago and it’s very different. Lots and lots of memories — my girl, the bbq-parties that went on way too long and loud, the old dog I buried there, my best pal through hard times.

    But there were the gangs and cholitos hanging, shots now and then, the burgularies (the cholitos, not smart dudes, busted one who had my bike, cops rousted him and gave me the bike back).

    To live amongst Latinos takes some adjustments, just as one would have to adjust moving into So. Central, El Sereno, Pacoima or East Hollywood — or Hollywood for that matter. Note to PETAphiles, my neib’s raised and ate rabbits; I kept chickens, I was the egg man, and you can’t mind a lots of beefy bbq smoke and blasting ranchera musica.

  17. Areas will continue to transform and change, it’s inevitable. After living in Boyle Heights for a short time but spending many years growing up in East LA and BH, I can say that the Mexican culture in this neighborhood will be here forever.

    There are tons of Mexican events that take place every week/weekend. The parks filled with Danza Azteca, the mariachis, and cumbia bands will thrive here until the end of time. It’s a good feeling to know that this area will always be largely filled with Mexican and Latino pride. The few Jewish and Japanese places that have survived the years are great too.

  18. I lived in City Terrace for 25 years, and my family still lives there. Also spent many years in Boyle Heights and I was never the victim of random gun fire, nor were any of the people I grew up with. El Jefe keeps insisting the neighborhood will never gentrify like Highland Park and Echo Park…..I guess he doesn’t remeber all the crime and gang activity that took place in those neighborhoods in the 90’s. People never thought they’d see the day when HLP and EP would be “the place to live”, yet, here we are! I have seen a steady stream of young proffesionals moving to the hills of CT and flats of BHTS over the past few years. Homes with a view, homes with character, 5 minutes from DTLA……there will be big changes over the next few years, period! And remember, positive change is always a good thing. Embrace your neighbors and the people who want too see improvement in your neigborhood!

    • Ugh…not against the neighborhood or anything…I fucking love BH & CT….just saying it won’t happen on the same level as HP and other areas! That’s ALL ! It won’t happen because of the housing (density) of the current population and it’s locale on the other side of the river and the large population of Mexicanos that ain’t going anywhere that are not open to places like the YORK and Wombleton…….period. Sure, there is a small minority that are…but, overall? C’mon………..

  19. I’ve lived in the neighborhood for 34 years, my whole life. Number 1 problem still remains, the gangs. Unless they’re willing to denounce the gang and change their life, I hope they all kill each other. They are a plague, like a diseased rat breeding more diseased offspring. Why should hard working tax paying, good people have to feel intimidated? They’re like a wounded animal right now, at their most dangerous because their membership numbers are dropping. So in an attempt to show presence, they are out tagging up the streets that they claim to own. Those low lives don’t even own a pair of shoes honestly. Lock ‘em up, deport ‘em or burry ‘em. Number 2 problem is the brown trash (BT) people. This problem seems somewhat newer. When I was a kid it seemed like people took more pride in their yards and the streets in general. Now I see people dumping trash on the floor, Mickey Mouse home improvement, or none at all. They are usually transplanted renters who don’t care… Having said all that, I LOVE THE FLIPPERS! Please come and buy and fix and sell for top dollar. Force the gangs out, force the BT out. Shame homeowners into making repairs on their homes; when I say shame I mean pressure. The more I fix up my house, the uglier my neighbor’s get, thus starting a trend of competition, hopefully. I want whitey and the blacks, the Asians, lots of gays, EVERYBODY who is here to pay their taxes and raise a family to come to Boyle Heights and make the neighborhood safer and more prosperous. Those who argue that Boyle Heights will lose its culture, can leave and start their own new culture in Fontana. Boyle Height’s culture is organic and ever changing… There will always be a taco stand setting up on the corner, don’t worry.

    • There are trashy people that live in BH that don’t really care, that’s the unfortunate side effect of living in a city. This area will always have the strongest element of Mexican culture in the city of Los Angeles. The real EastSide. BH, El Sereno, Lincoln Heights, and East LA. We’ve been here since the beginning and we’ll be here till the end. No matter how many people move in and out. This is a great place and it will keep getting better. This whole city is way better than it was in 90s.

  20. Have to say that something interesting is going on in my hometown — and it’s happening in East Los/BH/CT right now as evidenced by this thread, and how long it’s gone on. BTW, as a Japones homie thanks for setting Aurora straight on the diff ‘tween Asians on the Eastside. If peeps didn’t know it, Boyle Heights was a multi-culti haven, with whites, latinos, blacks, various eastern euros, jews and various asians, none of which I’ve capitilized on purpose.

    I think the ‘interesting thing’ of gentrification/development is caused first my money — peeps buy and invest where they can 1/afford, if a prospective homeowner, 2/make a damn buck, if an investor/developer. Old story.

    Only now East L.A., once seemingly impregnable to any incursion from the west, and by gabachos, hey I went to Belmont, homies, is seen as possible. In fact, Filipino pal of mine showed me two places he and wife were bidding on, one across 10 from CSLA, other 1/4 mi. from Evergreen Cemetery.

    I have to think that change is coming to across the river — it came to Echo Park (where I live) and whoa, look out.

  21. Correcting — ’caused first BY money…’.

  22. Well for all you nay sayers and haters the property has been listed as PENDING after only 2 weeks on the market.

    • Someone is going to pay WAY too much for this property.

    • Do any BH locals know how much a place like this would rent for? just thinking that it may have been bought by investors as a rental property.

      • It really depends on how new you are to Los Angeles. Local families that have been here for years rent places like this for about $1200-$1400. New people that don’t know any better will probably pay closer to $2000 for a 3 bedroom. People that have out of state plates will pay more cause they don’t know any better.

        • Well, there you go. Buy that place for $400K, put at least 20% down (assuming the buyer is an investor, it could even be an all cash purchase) And your mortgage at 4.25% will be $2000 a month. It’s a duplex, so you rent the 3br for $2000, the 2br unit for $1500. Your mortgage is more than covered and you hope the boyle heights market continues to improve and the place is worth $600K+ in 10 years. Or you live in one unit and someone else in the other unit pays most of your mortgage. It could make financial sense for some.

  23. Jimi Hendrix “If 6 was 9” Bold As Love
    I guess that don’t make sense either!

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