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Scenes & Sightings: Goodbye Del Mor Apartments, hello Grafton Lofts

Echo Park

Former Del Mor Apartments

Only a few months after being sold for $9.275  million, the four-story Del Mor Apartments building on Echo Park Avenue has a new name – Grafton Lofts – and a new look thanks to a black-and-white color scheme on the ground floor. Kind of a classy look for the 86-year-old building. But Grafton Lofts?

Anyway, the new leasing site does not say what the apartments are renting for but, according to Polaris Property Management, the tenants of the 44 units are located in an area “where sophistication and creative inhabitants collide.”



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65 comments

  1. Well, fill this out. So, they are changing the units over to lofts and are now leasing? Should I presume that means everyone there was evicted, and now they have been turned into lofts to be leased out? Or are you going to tell us that this new owner kicked everyone out, or otherwise explain what is going on? Do we have a whole bunch of people who have been put out of their homes — and you’re not going to tell us?

    • I’m a current tenant (almost 10 years now) they have NOT kicked anyone out yet, but they have redone all the piping, redoing all the wood floors, and who knows what next. It’s not fun being here right now and I suspect they could try and buy us out (at least that’s what some have speculated) after all the repairs/upgrades are done so they can hike all the prices through the roof. Flounce Vintage has already moved, and Polaris has bought the lease from Blue Collar… who knows what they are gonna turn that into.

  2. Man, why not stick with Del Mor. That is an awesome name and sign! I say paint a huge version of that sign on the side.

    ah well…….

  3. Things change folks. They aren’t putting a Wal Mart there. Anyone who’s gonna be made to leave will probably get a nice check to go on their way. Then you can move to the many other beautiful parts of Echo Park that are certainly expensive but to me worth a somewhat expensive tag because It’s a beautiful awesome place where a lot of people want to live. Anyone in there has my sympathy for sure, and I’d be somewhat weary about what the new owner might do but ultimately he was a reasonable amount of right to do what he sees fit to a certain point with the space that he bought.

  4. the prices are here. does not look like they are changing to actual lofts, just refurbished apartments:
    http://graftonlofts.com/photos/

    • The prices do not seem out of hand . $1850 for a two bedroom seems reasonable.

      • “$1850 for a two bedroom seems reasonable”(?!?). I’ve been renting out a two-bedroom home in Echo Park, with small but private yard, patio, and two-car parking space for $1,250. We purchased the property back in the 80s and have become increasingly determined to only rent to the traditional demographic of the area, which for the past few years has been a single mom whose done a great job of raising three kids into rambunctious but responsible and productive young adults. One of which will be graduating from college this year. We’re fortunate that this along with a couple more inherited properties are bought and paid for and as long as we can, we will continue to only rent to people who remind us of our parents and the friends and neighbors we were raised with during the “bad old days”, which was normal to us and not bad at all. It’s particularly gratifying to watch the same class of working people able to enjoy and prosper in a safer version of the same neighborhood. It’s our contribution to gentefication and preventing the we$t$ide Blob from creeping and transforming all of our neighborhoods into the sets of trendy and self-indulgent sitcoms. I’m looking forward for the fad to fade and ultimately end. After all, this has never been an area for old people and those in the first wave of hipsters are already in their 30s and pushing 40 and just like the hippie and biker eras of this area ultimately faded out, so will the era of hipsters. Only the families that were born and raised here will remain.

        • That’s very commendable of you, but if the new owners refurbish the apartments they should be able to charge a higher rate. Additional upgrades to the property will help as well as enhance the community. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have “a couple more inherited properties” that are ” bought and paid for”. Sound like you’re griping about “hipsters” from a very privileged position.

          • I didn’t object to how other people rent their properties. Whether it be for profit or comfort. The traditional demographic around here is immigrant and working class along with artist “ghettoes” that have always existed in the surrounding hillsides. Btw, I’m fortunate not “privileged” and maintaining properties that I’m not anxious to sell is equal parts benefit and responsibility. It never ends but it’s primarily worth it (to Me) because of our ability to prioritize according to tenant need not indulgence. Yet another value resulting from our hardworking-class upbringing, which resulted in all of us purchasing our own properties throughout NELA in the 80s and 90s because we still could for anywhere from $80K-$160K. That’s the traditional demographic we still belong too and cultivate in our neighborhoods as is our right as private property owners. Whiny envy from newbies notwithstanding.

        • @Proper Dos

          “We purchased the property back in the 80s and have become increasingly determined to only rent to the traditional demographic of the area”

          Define “traditional demographic.”

          The neighborhood has changed many times in the last 100 years. I don’t think there is a traditional demographic.

          • you are violating equal housing laws by discriminating based on demographics. It’s illegal.

          • Our extended family moved to NELA during the 40s/50s. I’m the youngest of four with a 10-year age gap between myself and the oldest. Collectively we have a detailed recollection of what NELA has looked like during the past 60-70 years and it has only recently undergone any sort of dramatic change, which has primarily been class NOT race-based. Race has always been more about the guilt and/or insecurity of transplants who always find it difficult to wrap their minds around that part of our community history. The traditional NELA demographic has always been artistic and working-class with notable exceptions in the surrounding hillsides, which are still very modest properties, particularly by millennial standards. I could go on and on but suffice it to say that there is really nobody here qualified to question our dedication to this community for all the right reasons. Something else that transplants have a very difficult time comprehending.

          • “Collectively we have a detailed recollection of what NELA has looked like during the past 60-70 years and it has only recently undergone any sort of dramatic change…”

            So, ‘Proper Dos’…the only portion of NELA history to which you attach any significance is restricted to your own family’s period of residence, and so that is by default the “traditional demographic” which we all must respect and protect?

            Could you be any more obnoxiously arrogant?

            Perhaps we should hand NELA back to Mexico. After all, this land was theirs long before your family arrived in the 1940s or 1950s (you don’t seem sure which). Err…wait…maybe we should give it to the Spanish instead? No, I’ve got it…the Native Americans! That’s the culture we should promote and respect in NELA, I mean they were here WAY before any of us “transplants”, right?

            Yeah, dude…you too are a “transplant”. Your brief 60-70 years of history is but a momentary blip in historical time, no matter how strong your sense of self-importance. Yours is not the “traditional demographic”. There IS NO “traditional demographic” with regards to NELA, because the demographic has been in constant flux since it was first populated. There is no logical reason why your particular (and very recent) claim to NELA is any more valid or any more “traditional” than that of anyone else.

            Seriously, get the f*&k OVER yourself and accept that things change over time. Once you’ve done that, perhaps you can work on resenting your neighbors a little bit less.

          • PD, great that your family has a long history in NELA. That’s really cool. Your dedication is nice too. The apparent animosity you feel towards anyone who move here in the last 30 years is not. You also seem to have quite a high opinion of yourself and a low view of others who are a) new to the area, b) white or non hispanic and c) “hipsters”. Get over yourself.

          • @ atomZ: Best… Response… EVER. Bravo.

            @Proper Dos: Offering low rent to a single mom is commendable, but basing that offer and denying other on race is just wrong. Justify it however you want, It’s BS.

            I’m glad you’v been able to inherit property that you’ve never paid a mortgage on and have artificially low property taxes on, but some of us have saved for over a decade and work 60+ hours a week for our homes. Sorry if I’m still not ‘hardworking’ enough for you. LA is irreversibly growing and echo park will be a big center of that growth for many many decades to come. So please come down off that high horse and get used to us ‘transplants’.

        • In addition to being illegal, it’s immoral… no better than the people who wouldn’t rent to blacks in the 50’s. At some point, the generation of people who still practice your type of discrimination will get old and die off.. then the human race can move on. Now, go have yourself a nice big bucket of fries.

          • True Freedom, You are the last poster to lecture others about morality and human compassion. I’ve ready plenty of your piss on these boards and you are an example of neither. Just a boorish and meddlesome old lady from Pasadena NOT Echo Park or NELA.

        • I didn’t object to how other people rent their properties. Whether it be for profit or comfort. The traditional demographic around here is working class along with artist “ghettoes” that have always existed in the surrounding hillsides. Btw, I’m fortunate not “privileged” and maintaining properties that I’m not anxious to sell is equal parts benefit and responsibility. It never ends but it’s primarily worth it (to Me) because of my ability to prioritize according to need rather than indulgence. Yet another value resulting from my hardworking-class upbringing, which resulted in all of us purchasing our own properties throughout NELA in the 80s and 90s because we still could for anywhere from $80K-$160K. That’s the traditional demographic we still belong too and cultivate in our neighborhoods as is our right as property owners. Whiny envy from newbies notwithstanding.

        • Btw, if it makes some of you simmering capitalists feel any better, I do raise the rent a minimum of 1% but usually 2% every year. I’m no saint just fortunate enough to be a gainfully-employed property owner whose grateful for what he’s got and doesn’t crave what others want. Apparently the traditional demographic that so many of you want to push out of our neighborhoods but those of us faithful, fortunate, and responsible enough to invest (not divest) during the “bad old days” have no intention of going any where in these good old days. After all, we always knew that NELA was the place in L.A. to live, work, and play in.

          • PD, all your talk of “newbies” and “hipsters” shows your true colors. I would call inheriting property that’s paid for privileged. You make so many assumptions about the people who are moving to NELA it’s really disgusting. Shame on you.

        • @Proper Dos – Sorry but Echo Park like anywhere else isn’t a static place. It reacts and changes like to supply and demand, shifts in demographics, culture., inflation, the economy and all the other market forces out there. EP started out as the original Hollywood, became a center for counter culture, then gang culture, and now hopefully “culture”.. And also, just because someone isn’t an immigrant or has a blue collar job doesn’t mean they aren’t hardworking either — technology and other similar jobs, while not physically demanding are mentally demanding with people working 12, 14, 16+ hours on complex technology…. working for the man is working for the man…

          • I knew folks like PD when I lived in Echo Park, basically urban hillbillies. Additionally, living off of rental income from properties you inherited hardly makes one “blue collar” or “hardworking”.

          • I’ve been working (by paternal decree) since I was 14 and in addition to part-time jobs my toughest “job” was working weekends and summers for my dad and uncles for free repairing recently-vacated rentals. We did everything ourselves and I wasn’t a member of the “design” or “engineering” team, either. “That’s what sons are for”. My dad also collected a percentage of our paychecks while we lived at home to “help out the family”. That’s what blue collar and hardworking looks like in the barrios of NEL.A and we’re spread out raising families from Highland Park to Silverlake and everywhere in between including Echo Park. It should be no wonder that we feel such a strong and enduring commitment to our NELA neighborhoods.

          • Btw, I’m not making negative comparisons with other types of work, careers, or professions. I’m a college graduate myself, which is a major cultural shift coming from a working-class background, Spanish-speaking household, and parents with less than elementary-school educations but they were masters of hard work. Accordingly, I’m personally familiar with mentally and physically-demanding work. Meanwhile, why is everybody here so shrill, paranoid, and defensive? If anybody betrays signs of being threatened it’s those responses to my honest post(s). I repeat, I’m in no way threatened by the evolving demographic and only lament the potential of excluding the eclectic, artistic, and traditional working-class that has always defined NELA history. Do the research and see for yourself. Otherwise, why the desperate efforts to erase this fundamental history? Ultimately, I’m neither old or poor or defenseless. Expect Me.

          • ESArts, stop Lying. There are no “urban hillbillies” simply living off of any inherited rental properties in Echo Park. These are very old properties frequently built with only casual regard for anything but the most fundamental safety codes. We’ve invested $150k in fundamental repairs to our duplex over the past 10 years. Most of it (plumbing, electrical, concrete) mandatory and not by choice. Factor in property taxes and rental income divided by four is a modest supplement at best and a sustained cost-analysis-pain-in-the-ass at worst. Ultimately, we can always count on a place to live if we ever hit a rough patch and something to cash-in if we’re ever desperate.

        • Grahm Wellington

          Proper Dos… proof that a racist can come in any color…

        • @Proper Dos — Your original remark here does seem smug, insular, archaic, and bordering on xenophobic. I think I see where you’re coming from, but you can also tell that others take these same facts and view them another way. For instance, my offhandedly-racist older relatives say pretty much the same stuff.

          Specifically — you’re coming close to saying you only rent to tenants of your ethnicity (“as long as we can, we will continue to only rent to people who remind us of our parents and the friends and neighbors…”), which is illegal.

          At any rate, it’s not particularly commendable, nor something to be proud of. Certainly not something to expect others to be excited about. (Yay! I found a landlord with an arbitrary good ole boy renting criterion! Just what the city needs!)

          Your comments in reaction (“lol”, “tapped into a deep well of guilt”, etc.) evade this point, and seem more directed at causing annoyance (“do feel a bit superior for having the luck or wisdom to buy low and live high”). So, you’re missing the point, which is: the exclusionary renting practice you describe is unfriendly and bordering on illegal. I fail to get the LOL.

          • “. . . you’re coming close to saying you only rent to tenants of your ethnicity”, A paranoia and insecurity that is quickly emerging as the defining characteristic of presumably white(?) NELA residents. Otherwise, I thought I was explicitly clear that class and need is our primary rental criteria. As for race/ethnicity? Only people with poor credit need co-signers so I’m indifferent to what color some of you imagine my tenants (or friends and extended family are). Meanwhile, I’ve always found it difficult to assign a color to guilt but the color of guilt and insecurity in these responses is becoming unavoidably clear.

          • You have a different definition of “explicitly clear” than the dictionary does.

          • . . . and you do sound “pretty whiny” . . . “congratulations” for truth in advertising.

        • I want Proper Dos to be my landlord!

        • Echo Park resident

          “…we will continue to only rent to people who remind us of our parents and the friends and neighbors we were raised with”

          Wow, I’m sure glad my landlord wasn’t a discriminatory douche like you are! He, too, is a longtime EP resident who has managed to look past stereotypes (gasp!) and rent to people based on their reliability and character — not the color of their skin or their “street cred.” Our neighbors (who have the same landlord) are diverse — a Latino family with longtime local roots, and a young mixed-ethnicity family with children.

          Newsflash, Proper Dos: Just because someone isn’t a Mexican-American single mom doesn’t mean they’re a trust fund baby with loads of cash to fling around, no work ethic and no morals. I’m white, and probably one of your dreaded “hipsters” — but my father is an immigrant, and I never grew up with fancy toys or cool clothes. I paid my way through college and grad school, and I’ve supported myself financially since I was 20. I have a so-so paying job. My boyfriend is a blue collar worker. Stop judging people like us just because we’re young and “white.”

      • (lol) Where do I begin? I seem to have tapped into a very deep well of guilt, insecurity, and just plain envy(?). Anyway, during the late 80s and early 90s, when many ran for the hills and beyond to get as far away from L.A. as possible, our extended family planted our flags into NELA even deeper. We’re proud of assuming responsibility for old properties in need of sustained repair and purchasing additional properties of our own. Because we’ve always known that if one insisted on living in L.A., NELA is/was the best place to live. Hidden in plain sight and with a traditional L.A. grit, diversity, and working-class demographic defined by the machine shops, plating shops, warehouses, bakeries, and the countless mom-and-pop businesses that catered to the people who lived and worked in NELA neighborhoods. Btw, I’m describing an L..A. that was barely 15%-20% “latino”, which exposes all of this shrill paranoia about being “white” or not “latino”. in fact, NELA’s traditional demographic has always included Anglos, Asians, and Mexicans. In fact, one of you used the term “urban hillbillies”, which is pretty accurate. We remember a lot of families with Midwest depression-era roots all over “these dern hills”. Some of which remain under the same circumstances as us. Anyway, our extended families are all here. We talk, reminisce, lament, and do feel a bit superior for having the luck or wisdom to buy low and live high. After all, not a single one of us is threatened by the new wave of investment that only adds to the value of ours. Particularly while we’re still young enough (40-somethings) to enjoy most of it . . . Saludos!

        • I always forget that trying to make a point in the comments section is pretty futile, because you either have instigators posting provocative comments to rile up everyone or you have people like @ Proper Dos who, oh never mind..

  5. PS pretty sure rental laws are that they can’t kick anyone out. They could only relocate people if they had to do a major remodel that would take a long time. the businesses below are another story, if they are not on a lease I think they can raise the rents to whatever.

    • any building 2 or more units built before 1978 is on rent control. rent can only be raised 3%per year. owners cannot kick out tenants unless they or a direct relative , ie child, brother or spouse is moving in. a fee at this time must be paid. 3500 for individuals, 7000 for families.

      if significant improvements to the property are made tenants may have to relocate ( this is a grey questionable area in dollar amounts), but also have first right of rental to pre existing apartments at market rate.

      commercial property can be raised to whatever the owners desire when a lease has expired. commercial rentals have no rent control.

      read more here
      http://lahd.lacity.org/lahdinternet/RSO/tabid/263/language/en-US/Default.aspx

      • The relocation amounts are higher than $3500 and $7000 for eligible and qualified tenants. I think $7000 would be the absolute minimum for an eligible tenant (i.e., someone under 55, non-disabled, with no minor children).

  6. I have Yet to read anything positive posted by true freedom thanks for the heads up. A Pasadena transplant. Biggest bigot I ever encountered. Too bad people can’t Sue. I commend the person staying true to OUR ECHO PARK.I will have a unit for rent mid summer looking forward to having a working local couple move in.

    • Grahm Wellington

      Another fine example of a racist. Thank you for displaying your true colors.

    • Saludos Anon! You can disregard the bitter darts and race-baiting from the likes of “True Freedom” and “Wellington”. Their handles alone distinguish them as meddlesome extremists, which are anathema to traditional NELA culture, which has traditionally been balanced, inclusive, and easy-going. Good luck with the rental and congratulations for your contribution to maintaining the traditional grit and character of our neighborhoods.

      • Grahm Wellington

        In other words, circle the wagons, brown people! Whitey is coming back to his old neighborhood! HAHA! Right Proper Dos? HAHA dude you are a racist pure and simple! LA RAZA right? HAHA!

        Hey proper Dos, Thanks for not stuccoing over EVERY beautiful wood clad building in Echo Park like your counterparts did in East LA.
        Whew! I think we made it back just in time to rescue our old hood!

        • Once again, your racial hang-up is YOUr racial hang-up and NELA has never been “whitey’s” neighborhood. Also, IF you were so dedicated to reclaiming your “old neighborhoods”, south l…A. is available with home prices I haven’t seen since the 80 and 90s. What are you waiting for “White Avenger”? What?!? Or are all of your actions determined by fear? Otherwise, lots of tough talk without the courage to risk success. Btw, what’s that word that rhymes with “flight” again?

          • Proper Dos, what you are doing is illegal as well as immoral. There are laws against the housing discrimination that you practice. You admitted on this forum that you violate the Equal Opportunity Housing Act by renting only to people of certain demographics.

          • @Sadd : watch out, they may start calling you a bigot, a racist, and/ or a meddler for pointing these things out!

            If I had some spare time, it would be fun to try to find and apply for one of Proper Do’s rentals.
            Proper Do’s.. would we be declined given my family’s demographics : white/ asian.. upper income.. professional degrees/ professions.. perfect rental history and credit.. children in private school? Would it help that I drive an old truck?

          • Grahm Wellington

            There you go again. Insisting your comments and actions aren’t racially motivated yet you call me “white avenger” and bring up “white flight”.

            You are a sad and confused old man with a myopic view of history. Fortunately, there are fewer and fewer like you around.

            Yeah, all of those silent film actors that lived here in the 20’s and 30’s weren’t white. HAHA! So you are either very ignorant about Echo Park’s history or you are trying to re-write history to conveniently fit into your bent reality. Either way you are wrong. I invite you to look at a public record called the US census from 1930. Tell me how many Hernandez and Chavez names you see. It’s more like MacDonald, Rand, Brayton, Green, McCauly, Hamilton etc… Ya boy! Those sound very non-white to me!!

            But you go ahead and try to re-write history. When the people around you start mumbling under their breath, that’s probably what they are talking about. “Old man has lost his marbles”

          • Wellington, your notoriety as a race-baiter on these message boards is well-established. It’s even a waste of keystrokes to inform you of my indifference to your traditional brand of ignorance and xenophobia. It only confirms our own suspicions about people like you living in our neighborhoods (or Pasadena?) and bolsters our determination to plant our flags even deeper into our NELA neighborhoods . . . “Thank You”.

          • Grahm Wellington

            Nice non-answer. What are you a politician?

            MY brand of ignorance and xenophobia?! Now I know you are just trying to be funny. How’s the history lessons going? Have you bothered to look up how incredibly wrong you are?

            Let me guess, it’s MY brand of xenophobia that wrote history about Echo Park. HAHAHA!

      • Echo Park resident

        Sorry — but saying you’re only going to rent to individuals who fit with YOUR idea of “the traditional grit and character of our neighborhoods” makes you the total opposite of someone who is “balanced, inclusive, and easy-going.”

        The only discriminatory language I’ve seen used in EP as of late comes from a predominantly Latino crowd who think all white people are out to “get” them. If you wanna be inclusive, don’t stereotype or shut out your fellow residents just because you don’t like the color of their skin.

  7. When the Rampart Arms apartments (6th and Rampart) became the “Rampart Lofts” all they did was tear out the carpets, paint the concrete floors, and raise the rents… and suddenly, lofts!
    In this residential building I imagine the single units will be Micro-Lofts and the ones with bedrooms will either be “deluxe lofts” or “luxury lofts” (because a bedroom is a luxury, right?)

    Either way, I am tired of the word “Loft” these days.

  8. Hey! The people over at this blog are pissed that Armenians are moving east or south and taking over the Silverlake and Echo Part. Just saying……the neighborhoods are become toxic in a new way, or is it just the commentators on The Eastsider blogs?
    http://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/03/storefront-report-silver-lake-gay-club-gets-ready-for-its-last-dance/#comment-1576478

  9. @Proper Dos : if it makes you feel better, somehow, to think that those who speak out against your discriminatory beliefs and tactics are doing so out of envy, guilt, etc .. by all means, continue to delude yourself. Personally, I have nothing to feel guilty about (so I don’t), and I certainly would not envy being a landlord .. even though, technically I am since we bought my mother a house.. yes, I came from a poor family, but I DID inherit much from them (NOT money).

    I realize there are still people who actively practice discrimination (and sadly, will likely always be), but hopefully the human race continues to evolve and we’ll leave these types behind.

    • Nobody is excluded. Preference is given to the neediest. We prefer seniors and families that have a history and demonstrated commitment in the neighborhood, e.g., their kids attend local schools, they patronize and work in local businesses, are respected and well-liked by the neighbors. I realize how difficult it must be for you to reconcile this profile with your prejudice towards certain people but that’s all about your guilt, insecurity, and history, not ours.

      • “rent to the traditional demographic”
        “traditional demographic around here is immigrant”
        “envy from newbies”
        “paranoia and insecurity that is quickly emerging as the defining characteristic of presumably white(?) NELA residents”
        “the color of guilt and insecurity in these responses is becoming unavoidably clear.”
        “during the late 80s and early 90s, when many ran for the hills and beyond to get as far away from L.A. as possible”
        “what’s that word that rhymes with “flight” again?”
        “people like you living in our neighborhoods”
        “bolsters our determination to plant our flags even deeper into our NELA neighborhoods”

        the words and phrases you use give pretty clear clues as to your true feelings. Achieve some true freedom, and let us know how you really feel! he he
        and just to reiterate: I have no guilt, insecurity, and I’m totally comfortable with my history.

        Good luck to you, and those unfortunate enough to have been infected by you.

        • ” I have no guilt, insecurity, and I’m totally comfortable with my history”. You shouldn’t be. You sound like a bitter and isolated online busybody who doesn’t even live in NELA. Why not mind your own business and stick to what’s going on in Pasadena? You only sound disconnected and out of touch applying your neo-conservative status-quo rhetoric to an eclectic place like NELA. it’s an Angeleno thing that Pasadena residents are usually smug and proud about avoiding. Btw, people with “upper income.. professional degrees/ professions.. perfect rental history and credit.. children in private school” aren’t the typical NELA renters. That’s why you moved to Pasadena, remember? accordingly, a single, hardworking, and responsible mom determined to raise kids in a safer community will always get the nod over the likes of You.

          • a) You say I shouldn’t be comfortable with my history. Why?
            b) You say I have a “status-quo” rhetoric, and that NELA is eclectic.. yet it sounds to me like you’re trying to preserve your idea of the “status-quo” by renting to a narrow demographic, which actually reduces the diversity of NELA , making it LESS eclectic. Maybe you need more neighbors like me, so you can learn to overcome your prejudices.
            c) Mind my own business? Yes, I’m a resident of Pasadena, but I’m not confined to the city boundaries. I live in LA, partly because there are so many interesting (and different) neighborhoods to explore and experience. Good thing you’re not my mom, so really, you can’t tell me what business to mind.

      • I don’t care that you are a xenophobe and a racist, Proper Dos. I believe racism will always be alive– and you are a shining example…. and, there’s nothing I can do about your hatred and hostility towards others.

        What I am really trying to fight against, is your criminal behavior that you have admitted a few times on this thread. This is when your racism and xenophobia break laws. See, it is not against the law to be racist and hate someone based on their tax bracket, ethnic background, etc— it IS against the law, however, to exclude potential renters from your property due to these reasons. You need to be investigated for violating the Equal Housing Opportunity Act. It is a big crime you are committing, Proper Dos.

        • Even the statements here could be illegal. From HUD’s site:
          It is illegal for anyone to:
          Advertise or make any statement that indicates a limitation or preference based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status, or handicap.

          • No, Proper Dos’ statements on this page are highly illegal– no questions about it.

          • @TF: thanks for grounding this discussion. The relevant link is here: (http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/FHLaws/yourrights). The rules are as you say.

            I had been waffling a little in my own comments, but the comments by Proper Dos (if true) apparently indicate violations of the Fair Housing Act, which was part of the Civil Rights Act of 1968. In particular, preference for single mothers does not seem legal, in general. (There are exceptions for small owner-occupied buildings, single-family housing, and housing offered by private clubs to their members only.)

            I knew that race and national origin were protected, but didn’t know that gender and family status were also protected. Live and learn.

  10. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhhahaaahahahah.
    Sophisticated.
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
    Loft.
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    • “Grafton Lofts located in the artist neighborhood of Echo Park, California, an area where sophistication and creative inhabitants collide.” (and trash each other in The EastsiderLA blogs Can you stand it? By the way, they list Barragan’s Mexican Restaurant as one of the highlighted eateries available to the inhabitants of EP. Also mentioned is Dodger Stadium. Just go straight up Scott and walk right in.

  11. The only reason why the “Grafton Lofts” boasts its “artist neighborhood of Echo Park” location is thanks to the artists that have lived in the area for decades and made it that. Why did artists use to gravitate to this area? Because it was CHEAP and devoid of soul-less gentrification, thanks to its gangs and low-income demographic that scared yuppies with no real artistic sensibilities away. Artists are what made Echo Park interesting. Now they are kicked out so that wannabe “artist” yuppies (I’ve rarely seen any real artist move into a newly gentrified area, if ever) can move in with their “mid century” furniture made in China from DWR and wash out any real character that’s left in Echo Park. Exact same bullshit that happened to Brooklyn this decade, Soho in the late 80s, etc. So artists moved further East to Highland Park and guess what, same process is taking place over there. Sad, but that’s “living in a material world” for you.

  12. Who cares! Echo Park is and forever will be nasty and scummy. Move to West LA people.

    Love you all!

  13. How much is it for rent I’m trying to find a place of my own?

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