Residents worked up over Silver Lake Meadow exercise classes

Fitness conditioning class at the Silver Lake Meadow

SILVER LAKE —   The  1990s dance hit “The Power” blares from a portable stereo as a group of men and woman do push ups on colorful mats spread across the Silver Lake Meadow. “Nice job!” yells the fitness instructor leading the group. “Stay strong! Stay strong!”  This is a Monday evening Full Body Conditioning class, the last of three outdoor fitness sessions  that  L.A. Beach Fit held that day in the public green space.  While the classes have attracted paying customers, they have also rankled residents, who have complained about noisy 6 a.m. workouts and the use of public space for a commercial enterprise. “This is not supposed to be a commercial zone,” Silver Lake resident Renee Nahum said at a City Council committee meeting on Monday.  “Anybody can open up a business there. It’s wrong.”

The fitness class at the meadow was an example of what residents and officials say are a wide variety of unpermitted and unregulated vending and business operations  that takes place in park and open spaces across the city. The type of commercial activities ranges from pony rides and bike repair stations to swap meets and bacon-wrapped hot dog vendors.

It’s not clear whether L.A. Beach Fitness has a city permit to use the Silver Lake Meadow (The Eastsider has contacted the firm to find out). But it does not matter. City officials who spoke at Monday’s Arts, Parks Health, Aging & River Committee said the city is currently powerless to stop or even  issue tickets for vending of products and services without a permit.

“Basically, anyone can set up a business in the park,” said Valerie Flores with the City Attorney’s office. “Right now the LAPD has no effective mechanism” to stop unpermitted vending.

The ordinance that would allow the city to shut down unpermitted businesses and vending in city parks was suspended about a decade ago in the wake of free-speech legal challenges. Those lawsuits have been resolved and an updated ordinance that complies with  free speech protections but allows the city to regulate and issue vending permits is now making its way through City Hall.  However, the ordinance, which was the subject of Monday’s committee hearing, has met with opposition from immigrant rights activists and vendor organizers, who claim the law’s penalties could leave many immigrant vendors vulnerable to deportation.

The committee voted 3-2 in favor of the amended ordinance, with council members Gil Cedillo and Curren D. Price voting against and council members Joe Buscaino, Tom LaBonge and Mitch O’Farrell voting in favor.  The issue now goes before the full City Council.

Back in the Silver Lake Meadow,  L.A. Beach Fitness charges $20 for individual classes, with discounts available if a membership is purchased.  In addition to L.A. Beach Fitness,  Yoga With Helen offers one-hour, $5 classes at the Silver Lake meadow.

Rudy Perez, who lives across from the Silver Lake Meadow, said he’s okay with kids playing in the meadow, kite flying, sunbathing and picnics. But at Monday’s hearing, he complained about the noisy music accompanying the 6 a.m. workouts. “My concern is the influx of all these classes and what further is going to happen to that area.”


  1. Ya this crap needs to stop ….
    No swaps no exercise classes in the parks!
    Its all the same annoyance!

  2. For starters, how about a rule against loud noise and/or amplified music?

    • Weird, I run the reservoir every morning and have never heard a peep from these groups.

      • The great fear is that it might become Echo Park like meaning food vendors, swaps, and pony rides that leave crap on the grass over runnning thepark. I think the locals are trying to get ahead of the problem. My guess that they really don’t have a problem with it but are more fearful of the Echo Park situation. Pure guess.

  3. Same shit…Different park. As I commented on the Echo Park Lake Vendors article, parks are not marketplaces.

    • Are they leaving trash like in Echo Park? Are the horses crapping on the lawn?

      If becomes too crowded, we will deal with it.

      Activating a public area is a great. They are adding value to the community. Promoting health is great.

      • Who is the “we” who will deal with it? The city is currently trying to come up with a means of dealing with commercial activities in city parks. These businesses (be it boot camps or other vendors) are promoting nothing more than making money for themselves. Sure some people (who pay a fee) benefit, but the vast majority do not. Quite frankly, if a commercial interest is making money off of the free use of public spaces they should be required to pay something towards the upkeep of the park. As a side note – does anyone know if the Meadow is actually run by the parks and rec or is it run by DWP which owns the land?

        • Perhaps it’s just me but I like to see people being active. It’s great modeling. I could careless if someone is making money from it. It’s a non issue for me.

          If it becomes an issue meaning hordes of people invading the park for yoga, let’s deal with it.

        • Marcus,

          No dirty swaps for Silver Lake.

  4. I run around the reservoir 4-5 times a week and have noticed these classes taking place, but have never heard amplified music or any particularly loud noises from them. That being said, I do think there needs to be some sort of permit and fee system for any commercial enterprises operating on public land in order to prevent overcrowding of public spaces and to help mitigate the wear and tear caused by these commercial enterprises.

  5. Yep, doesn’t matter who is doing it – we don’t pay taxes for public parks to be used as rent-free commercial spaces for hustlers.

  6. Fucking transplants.

    • deal with it. it’s not your silver lake

      • It’s my Silverlake. And I say: You charge for a service on a space? That’s just become your place of business. Pay the (city) man. The money goes for maintenance and a little extra for the admin. That’s just common sense, sensi. What u be trollin da nonsense, E. Long.

        • LOL! The profit is an non issue for me. What if they pay, and crowd out families? Still no bueno for me. As long as they don’t crowd out families, I’m good.

          Let’s allow the vendors to pay and crowd out families. That’s the ticket. When it becomes unmanageable, we will deal with it.

          • So let’s not tax them and let them do it anyway. Give them a free pass shall wee? Where’s your brain knucklehead?

          • pimpdaddymack

            I see them adding value to the community — promoting a healthy lifestyle. If Silver Lake wants a zero tolerance policy then it becomes Beverly Hills. Are you trying to turn Silver Lake into Beverly Hills?

  7. This LA Beach Fit trainer …. should pay for a permit or rent to conduct his business. Our parks are not for sale.

    • I think the problem is that there really is no reasonable method of doing that. Make it easy to follow the rules and make it profitable to let the parks be used in this way, and enforcement pays for itself. With proper concessions, many parks are vastly improved. Parks as empty no-mans lands are not safe and attractive places. A little properly scheduled and designed commerce helps keep parks in continuous use and helps pay for their bottom lines – something the beggars in LA’s Parks and Rec. department never seem to think about except to ask for more money from heaven while they sit on some of the most valuable land and community assets in the city.

      • Santa Monica managed to address this very issue in Palisades Park. Fitness ‘boot camp’ operators were completely out of control and SM managed to put a permitting process in place.

        This is a very solvable problem IF you have competent city leadership (we can dream).

    • How do you know we haven’t tried to do that already? Matter of fact we have tried several times to contact the different parties in charge but not a single person had an answer for us and had a way for us to get a permit. Guess what! We do this in Santa Monica and we gladly paid for a permit! So stop running your mouth about something you know nothing about. Also it is not your park, most of my clients live in walking distance, so that makes it OUR park.

  8. As a tax paying resident of L.A. County, why should I be paying the overhead of venders or Personal Trainers in Public space?
    And the liability insurance when accidents happen.

  9. Rich people problem!

  10. Get over it people. They are doing no harm to anyone. Sounds like its just a bunch of people that have nothing better to do than complain. They’d rather see the parks sit empty and unused. Get off your high horses and use your energy to make positive improvements to your community.

    • You might feel differently if they were blasting C&C Music Factory next to YOUR house at 6AM.

      • Nice lie buddy, the closest house to the park is almost 50 yards away and is separated by a very busy Silver Lake Blvd with cars honking and breaking constantly. Not to mention no one is blasting music at that time. I can barely hear the music standing 10 feet away.

  11. For the record, these athletes are very quiet. I walk by them most mornings, and you can’t hear ANYTHING unless you’re right next to them. Once I faintly heard music, but usually I don’t. The coach’s words of encouragement are spoken at normal volume. Would there be the same freak-out if they were doing yoga? I don’t get it.

  12. Erik,
    Parks should be used, by the public, not for commercial business. Parks are for the people to enjoy a little break for commercialism.

    • I think you meant “a little break from commercialism,” no?

    • I want to see people doing yoga. They are promoting a healthy lifestyle.

      If hordes of yoga instructors are ‘crowding’ out families, then Houston we have an issue. Right now, the park is big enough for all.

  13. I guess no one really cares about open spaces, serenity and just enjoying nature in a Meadow or a park.
    Capitalism is alive in our shared economy, so let’s bring them all on board to every square foot of public space and goodbye Parks and Mother Nature.

  14. Here is what is baffling to me: how can the Park and Recreation Department always bitch about never having enough resources to do anything when there are people literally beating down the door to set up shop in the prime locations Park’s in in charge of?

    Do they feed the Parks Dept. employees too much valium at lunch time? WTF, people, figure out a profitable method of issuing permits and use the money to upgrade and maintain the parks.

    I can walk up to a kiosk to rent a tennis court in Los Feliz, but NOTHING ELSE can take place out of the kiosk? Not a hot dog sale, not a permit purchase for a day of vending, not a license to do a fitness class in the park? What a stupid joke.

    There is a new G.M. in the Parks Department but methinks this whole department needs to be re-thought from top to bottom.

    • There are actually concessions leased out by the Parks Dept at Echo Park (the boathouse) and Griffith Park (Trails cafe) to name a few.

  15. Renee Nahum has consistently opposed everything about the Meadow from its earliest planning. That it has become such a stunning success causes her great distress and a lack of appreciation for the happiness and health it brings about. She and her Nabobs of Nimbyism are trying once again to find something not to like.

  16. Yeah, figures Rene would be at the front of the complaint line — she fought the Meadow tooth and nail years ago (thankfully, the community got its park over her objections and those of other NIMBY’s), and has been complaining about one thing or another ever since.

    Tough sh-t. This is a big, diverse and crowded city where people do all kinds of things they enjoy. Be tolerant and allow people their space and give them the right to do their thing. I know that Rene never uses the Meadow, so what’s it to her?

    I live across from the dog park, and have for 27 years. I remember when it was a grassy knoll above Silver Lake Recreation Center and never got used by anybody for anything. So they turn it into a dog park and today it is a vibrant and well-used public space that brings vitality to the community and enjoyment to thousands. Some of my neighbors complain about the noise, the dust and the smell — yeah, that is a side-effect, but I am willing to live with it because the whole idea behind public space in the middle of the city is that people (and their pets) actually use it! Your tax dollars at work serving people. The public should not be paying for the view from your living room.

    Finally, the most successful urban parks in America are those that allow activities — be it ball games (another thing the NIMBY’s are complaining about) or community services (that yes, are sometimes provided by private entities). Those things draw people in. A pretty landscape is nice to look at, but again, the Reservoir complex is more than a neighborhood amenity, it is a regional resource (and some day, the Reservoir itself will be part of Southern California’s watershed management program, benefiting people all over LA).

    My name is Larry Kaplan and I ran the LA office of TPL for 8 years a while back — our mission was to bring parks and playgrounds to low-income underserved communities. We begged, borrowed and stole to pull together small neighborhood projects. Silver Lake residents are very lucky — we live in a nice community with some of the best public space in the city. Let people use it in peace.

    If you don’t like the noisy cacophony of a diverse, robust, vibrant and sometimes chaotic urban environment, sell your house and move to a small town in the middle of nowhere . . . or buy yourself a pair of those noise dampening headphones.

    • Right Larry, but your argument falls apart when you increase the density of commercial enterprises using public space for personal profit. Then the only people who can use the public space are the people who can pay for classes which are being taught on land that should be free access and not crowded out by for-profit entities who don’t contribute to the care and upkeep of the land they are taking up.

      • Well said Frank. Larry, the only issue most folks have are with the commercialization of a public space (I can’t speak for those complaining about noise, having never noticed it myself). If you want to run a fitness class for free go right ahead. If you want to charge for it and make a profit you should have to pay some sort of fee for the use of the space.

      • $5 yoga classes hardly sound like commercialization. Frankly, for yoga or fitness instructors who can’t afford to rent a studio space or who are just getting started, it makes sense that they would utilize public space to build their enterprises.

        Oh, and if you charge them a permit to use the space, guess who pays? Yah, the people taking the classes – since the cost will just be passed along to them. So for people who might benefit from some structured activity at a minimal cost in a public space near their home or business, now we’re just making sure they pay more for the same space.

        Frankly, I think some fee set-up makes sense, but all the complaining about a park getting used in the middle of the country’s second-largest city just seems absurd.

        • Glad you agree on the need for a fee. It needn’t be excessive. BTW Silverlake Rec also offers cheap classes (albeit mainly for senior citizens)- less expensive than the $20 (not $5) per class or $30/week that that L.A. Beach Fit charges.

        • I’m not in favor of a fee unless they begin to crowd families.

          They are promoting a healthy lifestyle which is adding value to the community.

          Once again, if the yoga class crowd out other users, we will deal with it or implement tougher guidelines.

          I agree about how silly people are reacting to something is positive.

    • Between the ‘get used to it/whiny wusses’ crowd and those who want a zen garden lies the majority of the population in SL and Echo Park. I think licensing businesses like the permanent cafe and a couple of well maintained kiosks is fine for Echo Park lake. What’s not fine is the dirty swap meet that used to take over the park and threatens to do so again. They trashed the park previously, and now I’m watching them repeat history. The north edge of the park was strewn with trash this last weekend – what a discouraging development. As for the athletic classes in the parks, I’m torn about them but believe that there should be a finite number issued (for a fee) on an hourly basis, and the hours and class sizes restricted restricted. I just saw four exercise classes in the park the other morning, which really crowded out people who just wanted to casually use the green space. In addition, no exercise classes should be allowed in the basketball court. The ladies’ yoga class has driven out the actual morning basketball players, who got tired of arguing with the yoga instructor about their right to use the court. This all seems like a reasonable proposition.

  17. Y’all are a bunch of whiney wusses.

    Don’t ya realize that all ya gotta do is walk right in to Mr. So and So’s fitness class in the park and start rolling out your own mat and getting in on the fun? And guess what? Mr. So and So cannot stop you, He cannot charge you, and you can play your own music if y’all don’t like his funky junk.

    So enjoy yo’ selves, Bitches

  18. That’s fair, although it also depends on the “density” of the activity. Not being an early riser myself, I can only guess that the Meadow is not crowded enough at sunrise to warrant concern over the yoga classes crowding out other activities. It is probably more of an issue when classes are held at sunset, when the Meadow is more heavily used, or during high noon on weekends.

    But it is also a personal aesthetic issue — some people (like me, to be frank) like high density environments, where people do their things cheek to jowl, bumping into each other. It’s like preferring a crowded subway car to driving alone, or mid-town Manhattan to a small city, basically a matter of taste.

    So if this activity is only occurring during the early morning, what’s the big deal? My analysis is that Rene’s agenda is more about finding anything she can complain about, being a high octane tattle-tale because she is still pissed off, five years later, that she lost the battle over opening the Meadow. The community won that.

    • Um, I dunno but my analysis alarm is going full on to tell me that this Larry guy has a hard-on for this Renee chick and they should kiss and make-up and leave the logic and the city planning to the healthy adults.
      Perhaps youtube commenting is the aesthetic where LKitsch makes a good fit. Name-calling is inappropriate, opinion-based, destructive and serves nothing to solve the issue. It’s also a key indicator of an instable personality type. I’m a bit nervous that this guy is sitting for 27 years in his apartment watching my friends and I at the dog park. (Which, btw, was an informal dog park used by many of us.) And “Grassy knoll”, really? Ew….shudder. Who IS this creep?

  19. Santa Monica had this very issue last year and dealt with it to some degree by charging the trainers according to this story http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/14/santa-monica-fees-restrictions-outdoor-fitness

    I can’t find any other information about the effects except for this follow up article written in January 2014. http://www.santamonicanext.org/2014/01/early-returns-few-trainers-paying-the-price-to-teach-in-samos-parks/

  20. Larry Kaplan always resorts to name calling and personal attacks. Poor soul. This is simple, stick to the facts. Should the City allow people to conduct a business in a public park without a permit.

  21. I think the meadow has been a great success. However, I do have a problem with people profiting off of public park space. Free yoga classes, free fitness classes, etc. for the community would be fine. I think if businesses are profiting, then the city should get a share so the money can be used to beautify or upkeep the parks.

    • I have a problem with people profiting off of public space and not paying to maintain said space, or improve it. Holding a class in the park should be an easy and quick process for people charging money to do so.

      Empty parks are not nice places to hang out. Parks with active users at all times of the day are more lively and inviting. This isn’t my opinion, there have been plenty of goofy social studies of parks over the past 50 years to show this to be the case.

      If loud music is an issue, that is not an unsolvable problem. Other cities have found a way to make this enthusiasm for working out outdoors work for everyones benefit. In the long run, an affordable and predictable regulatory framework will help those making a living doing fitness classes.

      • I’ve taken Yoga classes with Helen. She only charges $5.
        Nobody charges only $5 for yoga. It’s $10-20 at the studios. She passes the rent savings to the students.
        The City of LA has some cheap yoga classes $20/mo (8 classes) but these are subsidized by the city.
        The city pays the teacher. At the park the city doesn’t pay the teacher.
        Sounds win/win/win to me.
        The city doesn’t have to pay an instructor.
        The people get cheap classes
        The instructor gets paid.

  22. I have lived in Silver Lake for over 50 years when people didn’t know where the hell Silver Lake was, my family has been here since 1929! Also, we were instrumental getting it crime free and cleaned up! Meadow project was a mistake from the start. First the problem was the soccer on weekend Monday’s. Then the parties, how do you have a party when there are no bathrooms, where do you think people are letting there little kids go potty? Think about it people. I have been walking around it and noticed very interesting things in the bushes… condoms, liquor bottles etc. Now the exercise classes what a pain this Meadow has become. Not to mention the poor wildlife that got kicked out to the killing zone around the eastside of the lake.
    It will not be a good end to this story if someone doesn’t close it off especially at night and get control of the situation at the “Meadow.”

    • You bring up a great point: why are there so few bathrooms in LA? It is a big problem for anyone out at the park not wanting to have to go pee in the bushes.

      What having no bathrooms nor shops nearby does is it maintains a very insular culture amongst neighbors around the park – who would let only a close friend or relative use their bathrooms or eat and relax at their home near the park. Those who are not in that inner circle of relations have no amenities and must make do – making their “stranger” status into something worse, a stranger with a full bladder and an empty stomach! Provide for the needs of the public at large and neighbors around the park can relax a bit knowing that people aren’t going to be sneaking around looking for a place to take an emergency dump in the middle of a jog around the park, or a spot to let their kids pee in the middle of a somersault session.

      • There are usually public bathrooms in LA’s public parks. The Meadow is an exception to this.

        The sad thing about the public bathroom situation is that for some reason Angelenos seem to love to destroy them.

        At a recent visit to the Rio de los Angeles Park, I was disgusted by the bathrooms and almost took my kids home rather than let them go to the bathroom there. It’s sad because this park isn’t even 10 years old and the facilities otherwise are quite nice (and I’m sure very expensive).

        Don’t even get me started about the bathrooms in Griffith Park, Echo Park, etc.

        For some reason, for a people who rely on public spaces to get outdoors and get together, we Angelenos hate our public bathrooms, lol. A cultural thing, I guess.

        • Yeah, I love trashing a bathroom every chance I get.

        • I love it when poor young misunderstood latino males sketch their tags on the mirrors. We should label it community art. Mi barrio!

        • Rio de Los Angeles is disgusting! It was so beautiful when the state handed it over and now it has been trashed. 🙁 Sucks so much to see what happens when Parks and Wrecks gets their hands on something.

    • What is a “weekend Monday”? Silverlake is, was, and continues to be the home of criminals and drugs, and gangs….(Hence your interest in the bushes)Are you are really put out by some handfull of heath minded people WORKING OUT in the meadow???
      Truth is, it just messed up your cruising the bushes for busters or little kids “going potty”….. or, you”re just an old crumby jerk who needs to close your shades and play inside with your cats….
      Please, brother!!! That meadow seems the least of your worries!~rD

  23. this is a video from 2010 at echo park lake of the swap meet vending. this is what gil cedillo our city councilman from cd1 supports.


  24. LA is a big city — crowded, noisy, chaotic, dirty and crazy. It’s what big cities are. Don’t like that? Move to a small town. Want your big city to be “nicer,” whatever the hell that means? Support and promote economic growth and job creation, which brings the wealth to all classes and allows government to provide decent public services. Don’t like growth? Again, move. Yeah, too bad for you. I love it.

  25. OMG Larry is getting angry! Take your meds Larry. It will be OK

  26. Once again, Silver Lake manages to prove what a caricature of an entitled but clueless community it is. And it’s all being whipped up by those with petty political agendas and delusions of grandeur. In this case, Renee Nahum is a political hack and Mitch O’Farrell is her client. Unfortunately, she has managed to spread so much acrimony and now that her “power” is waning, she’s trying to find a new “cause” to stir up trouble.

    With any rule or regulation, there’s always a grey zone. Example: no soccer in the Meadow. A pickup game with goals, boundary markers, cleats and wayward balls disturbing other visitors’ picnics: Thaat’s a problem. A dad with a toddler kicking a ball around? Not so much. So a little of what we used to call “common sense” goes a long way.

    Likewise. Spreading a flea market on the grass or vendors selling stuff? A problem. A bunch of women enjoying a yoga session at sunset? Get real people. And get a life, while you’re at it. Who knows., You might even enjoy it.

    • Meadow Maven, honestly have no idea what “political agenda” you are referring too. Clearly you have some long standing beef with Renee Nahum. If you bothered to see past your own petty agenda you’d see that most people commenting are concerned about the use of public land for private enterprise. The “common sense” solution is for these boot camps (the article refers to these fitness classes not some yoga class) to have to pay some sort of fee and register with parks and rec. That way there is the ability to limit the number of classes should they become excessive and to help defray the cost of the upkeep of the park. The city council is currently looking into just such a program based on the issues going on at Echo Park. I run the reservoir nearly every morning. I’m familiar with these classes which started as one class and now seem to be multiplying. Personally, the only issue I’ve had is that they sometimes litter the walking /running paths with their equipment. Both you and LKitsch seem to want to make the issue about your personal vendetta against Renee Nahum. To which all I can say right back at you is “get a life. . Who knows you might enjoy it”

  27. LKITSCH – Larry Kaplan, you are a fine example of what we now call a Bully. There you sit in your lazy boy recliner yammering about and name calling.
    I am sure you have a few plaque an your wall saying what a fine citizen you are, well the real Mr. Larry Kaplan is a Bully who has no place in our Community.

    • I don’t have a lazyboy, but I have lived and worked in this community since 1978 and love its warts. What I hate is the provincials who are incapable of dealing with change or anything that upsets their postcard vision of what the world should be like.

  28. Larry Larry Larry Kaplame- Let not get off topic here or your recliner, the subject is hocking wares and interrupting serenity in open spaces and making money off public property at tax payers expensive.
    Nice postcard vision of our Community,

  29. I am a regular early morning female runner and find safety in the instructor and students being there. Sorry if free security upsets some residents.

  30. I’m the owner of LA BeachFit. Unfortunately I was not contacted for this article, contrary to what the author asserts (I’m sure there was some mix up or other, surely they made the effort!). Otherwise I would have joined the party earlier!

    I love Silver Lake, and I love the Meadow. I’ve lived in the area since I graduated college in 2004. I also love to help people get fit, and I enjoy doing it in an encouraging manner (rather than being in-your-face). Based on this philosophy I’ve been building a fitness community in the Meadow and elsewhere, including Santa Monica where I have a permit to run fitness classes outdoors.

    I wholeheartedly welcome the permit process that the City of Los Angeles is considering for outdoor fitness groups such as mine, similar to the process Santa Monica has in place. (For one thing, it would mean that LAPD would no longer threaten to arrest us…which they’ve done despite no legal grounds.) Along with the woman who runs the yoga I have contacted city officials Tom LaBonge and Mitch O’Farrell, two of the three who voted in favor of this draft ordinance, on a number of occasions asking for a meeting to create a permit process. Unfortunately I haven’t heard back, except to tell me what I’m doing isn’t allowed. Which is not true. The fact that I haven’t been invited to be a part of the supposedly democratic process of creating the ordinance is disheartening, but I have hope that my city will listen to reason, rather than the disgruntled few.

    I would love to contribute a permit fee to the park, even though we cause very little wear and tear on the park and we take up very little space. I would hope the Parks Dep would use it for something cool, like youth programs, or playground equipment, or physical education for underserved populations. But maybe they’d have to use it to hunt gophers, who are the real villain of the Meadow.

    Parks are there to be used! Outdoor spaces, especially in LA, are ripe for exercise! Regulation, making sure parks are not overrun, is certainly prudent (tho not really necessary in the Meadow at this time). Our music and our words of encouragement are not louder than the joyful shrieks of kids playing, and neither can be heard by the houses across the street.

    In the case of the Silver Lake Meadow, there is a vocal minority who wishes for no fun to be had in the parks. That vocal minority has already been named here so I won’t repeat. They opposed the park itself and will oppose anything that goes on in the park. I just hope that the conclusion to this issue is more in line with the majority of comments here and the majority of opinions in the neighborhood, which are supportive of and open to this type of park use, and not in line with the minority with the chip on their shoulder because they hate the Meadow (and probably hate fun and puppies and kittens as well).

    I love the happiness and health that my trainers and I bring in to people’s lives, and I look forward to doing that in Silver Lake for years to come.

    • Hi, Adam. I submitted our questions and contact info on your website’s contact form. Still have not heard back.

    • Thanks Adam for clarifying. Also thanks for going on record as wanting to facilitate some sort of permitting system. Hopefully the city council will come up with some sort of process to end the confusion about what is and is not permissible in city parks.

    • Ah ok – so rather than wait for the new ordinance to be developed, you’re going to take advantage of this legal grey area to use public, taxpayer-funded space rent-free. The expression “trail of slime” comes to mind.

  31. I agree …. The power fitness classes w/ the loud obnoxious people is disturbing…. Take it to the gym…. The meadow should be peaceful and a great place for yoga and meditation!!!

  32. First let me start by saying most of you have no idea what your talking about. This boot camp has been going on for a long time now and from the start we have tried calling the different parties in charge to get a permit. We were told by all the different departments that no permits exist for the park so just continue to use the park. Matter of fact we do this in Santa Monica and we have permits that are paid for. So let’s stop with the attitude as if we don’t want to pay for permits. A large portion of our clients live in Silver Lake and walk to the class. So my client’s who are tax paying citizens are not allowed to use the park? Also the closest house to the park is 40-50 yards away and not to mention is separated by a very busy Silver Lake Blvd which is traffic heavy at this time. The music is played so low I can barely hear it standing 10 feet away, no one yells and people barely even talk.

  33. No one has mentioned the most important issue here — Blasting C&C Music Factory will attract gangs.

  34. The Silver Lake Conservancy seems to think that they are the ones that run the reservoir/meadow area. Perhaps they should pay for the maintenance of the area. What happens when the reservoir is completely taken offline by DWP, will they pay the bill to maintain the reservoir? Why should the ratepayers pick up the tab for something that only benefits the local homeowners? Let Craig and Larry pick up the tab.

  35. How can people get this upset about people working out in the park? I agree 6am is too early, but would it really be that bad for a bunch of people to get together and get healthier a few afternoons a week? You couldn’t (as the complaining neighbor) simply go up to the instructor and ask if the time can be changed? Do you really think they would fight you about the issue? I’m willing to bet they would oblige. What is the big deal? Unless they are littering, let people get fit and enjoy the public park. The horses are one thing, but fitness groups are ‘bothering’ you? Maybe someone’s just feeling a little jealous judgement as they sit on their butt and watch people trying to improve their health. sheesh. Would it be that difficult to implement a simple permit system so that the park use could be regulated and is not too crowded at any given time, and also so that there is a record of what organization was there and when? How hard could that possibly be? It seems like something the park and nearby residents would embrace as culturally enriching. “I hate ponies and bacon and fit people wah!” hahaha settle down people.

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