Wednesday, October 26, 2016

Arroyo Seco homeless camps cleared out; 710 Freeway tunnel opponents offer alternatives; great-grandmother injured during attempted Boyle Heights purse snatching

MOrning Report

  • Nearly 35 people were removed from the Arroyo Seco near Debs Park during a clean up of encampments on Thursday. Most of the homeless turned down offers of housing and social services. Arroyo Seco Journal
  • A group opposed to building a tunnel to fill the 710 Freeway gap between El Sereno and Pasadena has come up with an alternative set up proposal that they say will cost far less. Daily News
  • Police are asking the public’s help to find the man who threw an 84-year-old great grandmother against a fence during an attempted purse snatching near Mariachi Plaza in Boyle Heights. KTLA

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  1. So how many hours later did the homeless encampment reappear?

  2. Is there any legal recourse against the destitute when they return and squat along the Arroyo Seco? I think local neighborhood groups would be wise to study codified vagrancy laws and demand change. Sleeping in the public right of way creates numerous health and physical dangers that make the neighborhood unsafe. It should not be allowed.

    • Yes, legal recourse against homeless people– this combines excellent analytical thinking with the sort of compassion that us Eastsiders are well known for. Way to identify the real problem, Adam Smith.

      • Martin Arredondo

        The compassion that “us Eastsider are known for”, isn’t working” there are too many enablers.

      • “Most of the homeless turned down offers of housing and social services.” Arroyo Seco Journal
        So yeah, if they refuse to be helped, there should be legal recourse.

    • You can’t legislate away the homeless. They deserve some compassion and assistance. They aren’t homeless because they enjoy it. Quit thinking of yourself and start thinking about solutions that address root cause.

      • “Most of the homeless turned down offers of housing and social services.” Arroyo Seco Journal

        So they were offered compassion and assistance, and they didn’t want it. So it seems they rather do enjoy their lifestyle if they don’t want to be helped to find housing.

    • City Terrace1963

      One thing the city can do is to take the stuff that belongs to these people and destroy it. Second thing is to arrest them and throw them in jail for a couple of nights. The city needs to some tough anti vagrancy laws. These bums needs to be dealt with severely. I had a guy put up a tent in front of my house about 4 years ago. I turned the hose on him when he would not leave. All of his belongings were destroyed and the cops ended up arresting him because he had an outstanding ticket. Neighborhoods need to show these people they are not welcome.

    • I think the law *can* be involved, but only if we can move the homeless to a safe place that can help them get back on their feet. There are far too few homeless shelters in the city. Of course, some are mentally ill or just plain f-ed up, and will refuse to go into a shelter, or will just go back to living on the streets once they leave the shelter. The city is also not building enough affordable housing – everything that is being built is north of $750K. Far north. And rents are sky-high. This makes it nearrly impossible for a homeless person to get back into housing. So, yes, we can and should use compassionate policing to clean up semi-permanent homeless camps, but we’d better invest in afordable housing at the same time.

      • Martin arredondo

        if your not willing to get sober you’re not going to get back on your feet. Rents could be 500 bucks a month but an addict would rather spend that money on dope. How come you bleeding hearts can’t see that?

        • How do you Know all of this? Are you a recovering addict? Is somebody in your immediate family currently a homeless addict or recovering? Otherwise, you’re nothing but a ignorant pile of stale prejudice, stereotypes, and bigotry. Old fogies like YOU are the biggest obstacle to a solution for homelessness. Get a real life and stop judging the lives and challenges experienced by others. Hint: Absolutely NOTHING you post is the basis for a real or credible policy solution, i.e., you’re talking out of your ass . . . AGAIN.

  3. I think a big wood chipper would address the root cause.

  4. So Adam Schiff has officially come “out of the closet” to throw his name in service of the South Pasadena/Pasadena/Flint Ridge opposing any closure of the 710 Freeway gap — even if it is underground. The stench of hypocrisy and not-so-subtle bigotry abounds.

    Over the years Schiff has secretly attached riders to federal transportation legislation to frustrate completion of the 710 Freeway Gap. He is responsible for the laughable requirement to study longer and more stupid routes for the freeway gap closure as part of the current EIR process. (I mean, really… who in their right mind would say a viable “alternative” to the straight line between Valley Boulevard and Del Mar in Pasadena would be an underground tunnel route from Valley Boulevard to the 210/605 interchange? Or how about widening streets in Garvanza and Highland Park, and call it a day? These “alternatives” were never viable and one has to ask why Schiff required Metro to study them.)

    Schiff had only one purpose in inserting these preposterous “alternative” tunnel routes into the EIR study: to stir up more white people along these completely infeasible alternative routes to unwittingly support South Pasadena’s opposition to the freeway completion so the burden of the incomplete freeway falls on persons of color at the current end of the 710 at Valley. South Pasadena is content to continue this horrible termination point in the middle of low income neighborhoods which, whether they admit it or not, is the product of their own snobbery that dictates that South Pasadena, Pasadena and Flintridge is more worthy of “protection” than Alhambra and El Sereno.

    The “new” report announced at Metro with Schiff is largely the same alternatives put forward by the South Pasadena in the mid-1990s. That was their Multi-Modal Alternative which they later claimed Caltrans had not sufficiently analyzed in making a decision about the freeway in the 1990s. The Multi-Modal Alternative was a laughable fiction — it claimed that if only we built the Gold Line (it was called the Blue Line then), hundreds of thousands of people would miraculously abandon their cars and ride the light rail. Why anyone had to give that fraud three minutes of evaluation remains a mystery. But hey, it was a pretense for white judges in the courts to hold up the 710 completion to the benefit of the predominantly white communities of South Pasadena, Pasadena, and Flintridge. Mission accomplished by the white folks up the road in South Pasadena.

    So having used the Multi-Modal scam once, why not try it again, with South Pasadena’s handmaiden of implicit bigotry, Adam Schiff, lending his name to it? Yesterday’s “new” plan, is South Pasadena’s same old tactic with a new logo and name on it: Beyond the 710.

    Now it is even more preposterous. They can no longer claim the Gold Line would “solve” all the problems, because, of course, it does not. It never could. Then knew it then. They know it now. So now they talk about only improved bus, street widenings, bike paths, and walking. Yeah, let’s see the councilmembers of South Pasadena commute to their jobs by walking the 710 Route instead of driving their SUVs.

    Let’s just build the 710 freeway to South Pasadena’s border and let the hysterical white people choke on the traffic they currently are quite content to spew all over the low income people of color in Alhambra and El Sereno. There is no environmental justice in South Pasadena’s position — it represents their bigotry. Shame of Adam Schiff for lending his name to such a public fraud as Beyond the 710. Many many frustrated residents of the San Gabriel Valley are Beyond the Bigotry.

    The next time you are cursing the traffic on Valley, Fremont, Atlantic, the I-5, or the Arroyo Seco Parkway — remind yourself why you would not want to vote for Adam Schiff to replace Diane Feinstein. He is inclined to only help certain buddies when it comes to the 710 and screw the rest of us.

  5. Compassion and providing support with resources is a must; yet, city officials must ensure the safety of all citizens in public right aways! It is not acceptable to endanger the well-being of others! Public right aways must maintain clear pathways for use. Let’s not ignore a known fact that many of the homeless population have mental and drug addictions that have adversely affected their homelessness circumstances. For many, their families turned their backs on them, and discarded them to the streets. Sadly, it’s heart-wrenching to say the least. How do we solve the root cause without over-burdening an over taxed people already?

  6. NO on 710 Tunnel! If they close the gap, more pollution will come, especially from freight trucks.

    • By the time a tunnel or surface connection of the 710 freeway is completed, diesel trucks will be significantly reduced to compressed gas and electric. The technology is here now. Thus, this cry over the 710 comes down to a few privileged people in Pasadena and Flintridge opposed to any more traffic on the completely underutilized 210 Freeway between Pasadena and Sylmar.

      • It comes down to 5-10 billion with a B that we don’t have, and even if we did, would provide laughable ROI for the taxpayer if wasted on this project.

        Look at the 405 widening… A billion down the drain and traffic is actually worse today!

        You want to speed up freight at rush hour? Paint some truck/bus only lanes on the existing freeways and call it a day.

  7. Maybe tunneling the 710 could create jobs for all the people living along the Arroyo Seco.

  8. One of these homeless guys was following My wife while she was on a jog. It was coming to a loop, she crossed the street so he crossed it, and once more. He tried to approach her. My wife is overly compassionate, she was very scared. There are more problems than just the trash.

    • I Agree. The “Boyle Heights Rapist” that they just arrested was homeless and living under a freeway underpass. And I don’t know if they ever did catch that guy who was attacking female joggers in Debs Park last year, but who knows, he may have come from one of the encampments. Some of these people have issues and are dangerous. Just because they are destitute and down on their luck doesn’t make them flippin angels. Compassion should have its limits, like the space between your backyard and the homeless tents.

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