Friday, October 21, 2016

Whole Foods not revealing much about new Silver Lake 365 store as construction begins

A customer walks between barriers as work beings on Whole Food's 365 store

CVS customer walks between barriers as work beings on Whole Food’s 365 store | Robin Blackman

Shopper and Diner buttonSILVER LAKE — The parking lot next to the former Ralphs supermarket on Glendale Boulevard has been turned into an obstacle course, with construction barriers blocking off a large section of the lot as work begins on building Whole Food’s first 365 store.

The upscale grocery store chain surprised many Silver Lake residents in late July when it abruptly dropped plans to open a traditional Whole Foods in favor of 365 store,  which the company has described as a “convenient, streamlined, value-oriented”  concept. Though the change may mean lower prices, one Silver Lake woman has started an online position against the “budget” Whole Foods, reports LAist. Meanwhile, a full-fledged Whole Foods is scheduled to open Downtown in early November.

Whole Foods  said the Silver Lake 365 store, named after the chain’s house brand, is scheduled to open in the second half of 2016. A Whole Foods spokeswoman declined to say whether the 365 store would contain a wine bar and restaurant that had been planned under the previous format:

The 365 team is still developing store features and we cannot share much detail just yet, but are excited about what the store will offer the Silver Lake community. This location will offer innovations and quality similar to what customers would find at a Whole Foods Market store, but they will be streamlined and presented in an updated, operationally efficient format, which takes into account the needs, desires and demographics of the area’s residents.

In addition to building the new 365 store in the former Ralphs space, the entire shopping center in the 2500 block of Glendale Boulevard is getting a new facade while the CVS and a few other stores remain open.

The entire Glendale Bouleard shopping center is getting a makeover

The entire Glendale Bouleard shopping center is getting a makeover | Robin Blackman

A rendering of the Silver Whole Foods before company announced it would be changing formats | DL English Design Studio

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  1. I believe that the 365 store is an experiment to try to go after the Trader Joe’s section of the market. The problem is that Silver Lake already has a great Trader Joe’s so a regular Whole Foods would have served the community much better in terms of giving more variety of foods and goods. Some people like the idea of 365 since it is more “value-oriented”. However, a regular Whole Foods would still have the 365 brand generic options in addition to the more pricey options. This change to 365 store just limits our options as consumers.

    • If it’s a normal-sized Whole Foods, then even a 365 store would likely have a ton of non-365 options. I rarely shop at Trader Joe’s, and I want a normal Whole Foods. But I’m saving my judgment until I walk into the store.

      • Only in this country , while people are swimming across oceans with their children and nothing but the clothes on their back as refugees fleeing conflict , is there a thread about a damned supermarket!
        WHO CARES if its a 365 or a “real” Whole Foods?
        What on earth is the matter with you, seriously.
        Just be grateful for what you have! Good lord!

        • @Badlands
          Don’t be ridiculous.
          Of course there are tragedies everywhere like the homeless, the refugees, the oppressed. This is not a choice between feeding the homeless OR having a whole foods. This is an article about the choice between 365 and whole foods. Clearly, you clicked on it to read it.

        • You’re right. The Eastsider should switch it’s focus to the refugee crisis. Local development news is of no import.

          • I back Badlands comments, its not about the eastsiders article that keep us informed, its about the cry baby comments about “i want a Real whole foods” give me a break ! Its gone from a hippie laid back artist community to a i want the comforts of the Westside community

  2. I would have preferred a greatly enhanced Ralphs supermarket. This means we’re stuck with high-priced stores in the immediate area: Trader Joes (despite its rep, it’s not that cheap for fresh-food items and the selection is limited), Gelsons, Vons. The alternatives are Super King or a drive to Ralphs in Glendale. Whoever goes in there, this was a missed opportunity in that the entire center should have been leveled and a two-story center with multiple retail spaces built.

    • Trader Joes is cheap as hell. Yes the selection is not vast but it’s cheap. I never understand why you never see poor people shopping at trader joes. They must be intimidated by all the hipsters into missing out on deals

    • Like you said, there is still Super King which is the cheapest of them all so I don’t see the problem.

    • Personally but I don’t see much difference between Ralph’s and WF’s prices. Yes, Ralph’s does have sales, like a big bag of Lay’s for 2 bucks or two pints of Haagen Dazs for 5 bucks, but their normal prices are pretty high. And yes, WF does have some expensive items, but they also have some very competitively priced items as well. Their store brand is better quality than any other store brand and the prices are relatively low. Their butter, milk, jams, peanut butter, and canned olives are a few examples that come to mind. If you compare the quality and the prices with other store brands, WF is clearly a better value, imo. Even many of the name brands they sell are lower priced than at say Gelson’s, Bristol Farms, or even Ralph’s/Vons.

  3. While many apparently see this as a slap in the face to the community, thinking that if any community deserves a true Whole Foods it is Silver Lake, I see this as yet another welcome alternative to Lassen’s Natural Foods. I haven’t shopped at a Lassen’s since the owner put $30,000 of his own money toward staking his claim as a bigot. It isn’t always convenient to skip over Lassen’s but I do, and whether the new store replacing the Ralphs is a 365 or a Whole Foods I expect it will fit my needs.

    • Yeah, cuz the libertarian asshat who runs Whole Foods and called the Affordable Care Act “fascism” is the kind of guy I want to give my money to.

  4. Inadequate parking = rinky dink WF

    • Good point. It’s hard to imagine a very decent sized WF when the parking lot isn’t very large. Otherwise, it’s about to get real in the Whole Foods parking lot. Might make parking at the Trader Joe’s on Hyperion actually seem pleasant.

    • I used to live around the corner and I’ve never seen this lot full (parking takes up more of the lot than the actual buildings.) But I am a little surprised they didn’t just bulldoze and build a mixed-use project here with subterranean parking below and apartments up top… must not be zoned for it.

      • They were probably scared of having to face the Silver Lake NIMBY nut cases. Look at the grief they are getting just for calling it a 365 instead of Whole Foods and one starts to understand why.

      • Its coming down. Just wait and see.
        its coming down and they will start building up.

  5. There’s going to be a amazon fresh (or whatever the online delivery branch is called) incorporated into this whole foods. Online ordering and drone delivery coming soon to silver lake.

  6. Due to water table issues parking has to be above ground. There’s a lot of work needed to handle drainage

  7. It’s always interesting to me that no one ever mentions Costco in these threads. They offer quality products (many organic foods/fruits/veggies), great customer service, the best prices, fast cashiers. The trick is to go in after 8pm (shortly before they close), do your shopping and there’s almost never a line. Sure you buy in quantity, but not as much as you would think. I have done almost all my shopping there for a 1-2 person household for many years, and save megabucks. Their $4.99 BBQ chicken & $1.50 Polish with a drink are the best buys around! Their employees are always helpful and efficient.

    • Yup, completely agree! Or try Tuesday afternoon, a well kept secret . Store is empty! Sometimes I slip through the park and go to the Burbank Costco..very cheap gas, a bit less hectic.
      Some Costco values include almost all the Kirkland brand stuff, dog food consistently rated 5stars by Dogfood Advisory sites. Organic milk, freeze what you need for later, carrot juice, tofu, vitamins, socks & tee shirts a bargain.
      And employees are paid/treated well. Works for me!

      • Yes, absolutely! Love the way they treat their employees. And their photo department is great! They make quality prints at super prices, and their framing is top notch. Anyone who remembers that horrific metro rail accident several years ago on the track next to the store will remember the heroic measures taken by employees and management. They came together to offer help, food/water and support. They always go above and beyond! I think it says a lot that their employees are mostly long term and clearly love working there!

  8. file this under who gives a shit..will see when it opens..hilarious that the whole foods topic gets everyone going..it’s a fuckin market..who cares

    • Exactly. It’s just a market. It may have some useful items for sale. That’s about it. Between the styleistas and the real estate bubblers this all takes on a new meaning not so well understood by ordinary folk.

    • Mike,

      Well, I’d say that anyone who cares about what kind of food they put in their bodies and how they spend their money cares.


      Would you care to enlighten us on the new meaning this all takes on? I, for one, am curious.

    • Mike, The language you use on a public board such as this indicates that your opinion would mean nothing either way to most of the posters.

  9. All I want is for them to plant a few trees in the parking lot. That’s it. Yup.

  10. I like Super King and Costco. The only thing I buy at Trader Joe’s is Clif Bars for 99¢ each. When this 365 store opens, I will check it out. I have actually never been inside a Whole Foods Market, so I don’t know what I am missing, but even having said that, in all honesty, I would have preferred if Silver Lake was getting a Sprouts.

  11. I remember thinking back when it was disclosed that Whole Foods was going to open in Silverlake that I would be 40 by the time the store opened.
    I’m now 40 1/2, we shouldn’t worry about what kind of Whole Foods its going to be as we’ll all be dead based on how long it takes to get anything approved and done in LA.

  12. Imagine being a terrible enough person to start a petition because a Whole Foods isn’t fancy enough for you. The words, “get a life” have never fit anyone better.

    • Why on earth are you taking the time to comment? Get a Life……..

    • But you have to admit that it is a total insult and slap in the face to Silver Lake to give us, of all communities, the cheaper spin off and not the real thing. If any community deserves a PROPER full amenity full service Whole Foods Market it is Silver Lake. Give Glendale the 365 knock off for Pete’s sake.

  13. I used to shop at the Ralphs b/c I found it a decent balance between quality and price. And it was convenient, which is the ruling factor for me. I had previously shunned the much-closer Vons since it always struck me as shabby and dinky. I’ve been pleasantly surprised, though, how much decent stuff they have crammed into this relatively small space. There is a good selection of organic produce (and they have an organic house-brand for many other things), the deli is great, and staff are super-friendly. At the same time, they still stock a huge variety of the ethnic food items that appeal to other neighborhood demographics.

    The sad truth for all these markets, though, is that the parking lots are so small. It almost makes it worth going to Glendale or Burbank because their lots tend to be more spacious.

    If WF has “streamlined.” I wonder what the plans are for the rest of that strip of stores? CVS is the only one left, other than the three in the lower parking lot; all those other businesses were forced out by greatly increased rents. What now?

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