Saturday, October 22, 2016

A hotel for Silver Lake’s Sunset Junction? [correction]

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A hotel would replace the 84-apartment building shown in the rendering above

SILVER LAKE — The developer of a trio of proposed apartment buildings with more than 300 units in Sunset Junction has filed a preliminary report explaining the impact the project would have on the neighborhood. The details of the so-called Sunset Gateway project pretty much reflect previous statements and plans revealed in recent years. However, the environmental documents float the new idea of replacing one of the apartment buildings with a hotel.

A 95-room hotel with 4,000-square fee of restaurant space is presented as one of the potential alternatives for an 84-unit apartment building at Sunset and Santa Monica Boulevard (Site 1), across from the Silver Lake Jiffy Lube and Cafe Stella, according to the draft of the environmental impact report filed last week by developer Frost/Chaddock.

According to Curbed LA:

The report says the height of the hotel would be four stories, “which is a reduction in height of 11 feet and one story when compared to the 68-foot [mixed-use] Project.” (A previous version of the story incorrectly noted the hotel’s height would be five stories.) The total square footage of the hotel, “would be substantially reduced in size” compared to the mixed-use building planned. The hotel alternative wouldn’t affect the plans for the other two buildings in the project, which would remain unchanged.”

While the proposal would bring a hotel to Sunset Junction, one of the new apartment buildings that would be constructed would replace the long shuttered Sunset Pacific motel at the corner of Sunset and Bates (Site 3).

The new hotel is among several alternatives described in the lengthy document that will be subject to public review and a hearing.

The hotel would be located at Site 1

A previous version of this story contained an excerpt from Curbed L.A. that said the hotel alternative would be five stories tall. That was wrong. The correct height is four stories. The story has been updated with a new excerpt that reflects the correct height.

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  1. Fabian o'Phurrel

    The proposal to construct a 5 story hotel overlooking the Jiffy Lube is a promising start.
    The project also needs to incorporate the historical character of the neighborhood so that it can become an asset to the community as well as an attractive draw for visitors.
    This can be accomplished by developing the entire site as the Jiffy Lube Hotel and Leather Garden at Sunset Junction.

  2. So the city wants to abolish Airbnbs, which are run by locals, but let corporate hotels move into our neighbor? Ugh, this is a terrible idea.

    • You really don’t know the difference? Hotels are short-term rentals,
      Airbnb is taking away long-term rentals from already suffering housing issues in Los Angeles , have you not seen the homeless everywhere? As opposed to just in skid row where it used to be? There is a housing crisis. How can you even compare? Did you do your homework before you commented really? That’s what hotels are for, they pay taxes, and expect people to stay one or two nights. Whereas Airbnb takes away a potential long-term unit for someone that needs a place to live. But since Silverlake and Echo Park have become prime real estate for greedy people, they make more money charging cleaning fees and deposits and daily prices, then having a long-term renter.

    • Yeah I don’t agree with you here. Shopping for an affordable apartment right now is next to impossible thanks to Airbnb.

      Every 1800-2200$ 2 bedroom on the market is presently going for 300 a night on Airbnb.

      • For every $1800-$2200 two-bedroom apartment on the market in Los Angeles, there are probably four that are being rented for $750-$900 under rent control, to long-term tenants. How is that fair for a property owner?

        • This is red herring bullshit of the highest order. Nobody buys a building unaware of what its tenants are paying and RSO ordinances are public information, so it’s perfectly fair for the owners.

          • A law can still be unfair, even if people are aware of the law.

          • i don’t understand what’s unfair or what you’re critiquing even – can you articulate that? if i’m looking to buy an rent stabilized building and i don’t like the income it’s getting, i don’t have to buy it. i can move on! or ask for a lower price. this is the market at work!

          • Precisely. Just as prospective buyers of rent-controlled property have the freedom to take a pass on any building that doesn’t meet their financial criteria, property owners who have a vacant unit should have some freedom to rent their units on AirBnB. An individual property owner is not – and should not be – responsible for the city’s shortage of housing.

            I do sympathize with residents of AirBnB-saturated neighborhoods that it’s not fair to operate a quasi-hotel in a residential area, but I feel that rent control – as it currently operates – is so unfair to property owners that there’s a certain poetic justice to the loss of rental units to AirBnB.

          • renters use airbnb too, stupid, and you still haven’t articulated why la’s rent stabilization ordinance is isn’t fair – probably because you can’t. sorry you can’t evict more poor people dude.

          • Kermit, your inarticulate, poorly-worded ad hominem attacks fail to impress me. Calling me stupid or referring to my argument as “red-herring bullshit” only makes you look irrational. However, since you asked, here are a couple of my qualms with rent control, as currently practiced:

            1. Month-to-month contracts mean absolutely nothing under L.A.’s version of rent control. A tenant can give thirty days’ notice if he or she decides to leave, but the landlord can’t ask the tenant to leave, unless he pays that tenant between $7000-$14,000 and meets a series of onerous requirements.
            2. There’s no means testing for rent control, so many middle- and upper-middle-class renters are receiving a subsidy that they don’t need or deserve. When I purchased my duplex in 1997, I was a second-year schoolteacher earning $37,000 a year. My tenant, who works behind-the-scenes in the entertainment industry (yes, he’s still my tenant 18 years later), was earning $50,000-$75,000 a year in 1998. He earned more than me, yet I’ve been forced to subsidize his rent for the last 12 years (it was probably closer to market rate when I rented to him in 1998). In effect, I’m forced to keep his rent artificially low – he pays at least $1000 less a month than market rate – yet he earns a decent middle-class salary, and he may still earn more than I do.

          • I’m a property manager and deal with evictions and lease terminations probably once a year. It’s a pain in the ass, and it should be. It’s a human being’s home at stake vs your income property.

            And hey if we want to start adjusting housing costs according to the market, man, I’m right there with you. You’re paying property taxes based on the 1997 value of your duplex—that’s artificially low, too, since unless you live in like Hemet, your place is worth a lot more than it was back then. There are Californian schools, roads, libraries and cops that could all use the money. And that’s to say nothing of all the tax incentives you get as a home owner that renters don’t get. So let’s make a deal: sign a petition to repeal prop 13 and I’ll sign one to repeal the RSO. It’s about fair market value, right?

            And again – you bought the place! The RSO had been in place 20 years at that point. You knew how much you could charge your tenant and you bought it anyway. Nobody forced into buying the duplex. Are you greedy or just bad with money? Like do you buy a car and whine when you realize the gas isn’t free?

    • You’re way off-base, Hillster. Silverlake and Echo Park *need* a good hotel!

    • chinatown monastery

      Oh, poor deluded millennial hillster. Keep out those evil ‘corporate hotels’ and let the good people of silver lake decide what’s best for the community (with the help of our well-intentioned bay area overlords).

      Christ, this is why i’m done with this town… I’m sick of looking at assholes like hillster look at their phones.

  3. City government is full of idiots.

    Silver Lake and Echo Park are already ruined by trust fund babies and greedy air B and B owners that ARE NOT locals , who purchased properties specifically to convert to air b and b’s , so I say YESSSSS. ! Bring on the big development and apartment buildings and expensive food and turn this pseudo “Eastside ” unto The Westside , that is What all The greedy folks wants.

  5. Haff-Foods-Fanny

    Can we just build something already, this lot has been a wasteland for what, four years?

  6. I support a hotel in the junction. There is definitely a need as evidenced by all the AirBnB activity. Visiting friends and family would have a place to stay.

  7. Can we just ban these Frost/Chaddock and Palmer developers with AirBNB and let everything actually be locally owned and operated? These people are so far off base with everything they are developing.

    • Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Local entrepreneurs have been priced out of small scale urban development for years through misguided zoning and legislation. Even if one owns property, you’d have to spend years on soft costs (CEQA, rigid parking requirements, red tape galore) before you can even break ground on a modest urban building.

      And assuming you ever get that far, it’s virtually illegal to build at the scale/form of any of the more charming pre-war mixed-use buildings nearby (all those lovely old 1920 brick 3-4 story buildings with no parking or setback sprinkled throughout the neighborhood.) Modern zoning and charming urban neighborhoods are often at odds with one another… One has to build an industrial scale parking structure first (either above ground creating an eyesore and dead space; or below ground at enormous cost.) All other design considerations (scale, architecture, context) are compromised right out of the gate.

      Meanwhile, we all know that any attempt by City Hall to streamline the development process for smaller entrepreneurs would be met with NIMBY hysteria and years of litigation. Banning large development would just mean noting gets built at all. Come to think of it, I bet a lot of locals would love that! Hell, they’ve already climbed the ladder — what’s it matter to them if we start sawing off the lower rungs. Better to relax while your property values skyrocket… younger generations be damned!

  8. This project is wrong for Silverlake and the developers keep submitting worse and worse designs. Our neighborhood is unique and projects like these condemn us to looking and feeling like every other part of LA. Environmental impact on the Junction would be terrible by adding over 800 new cars, not to mention visitors, to an already stressed intersection is irresponsible. The developers Frost/Chaddock destroyed historic buildings in order to streamline there project and with further destruction being of one of the oldest homes in the area to complete construction makes this very unappealing.

    • Real Silver Laker

      Well, you don’t know that Silverlake is Silver Lake…so how much do you really know about the neighborhood?

      And if you really look, you will see the same types of buildings all over Los Angeles: dingbats, craftsmen, Spanish, modern apartments.

      You are repeating lines, not really knowing about the area.

  9. Fabian o'Phurrel

    Site 1 and Site 2 lie across the street from each other, but Site 3(the former Pacific-Sunset Motel) lies a long 2 blocks away.
    I’m curious to find out how the developer is allowed to include all 3 sites into one application for review and approval.
    Now that Frost/Chaddock has added a hotel as another alternative in the proposal, they could select a name other than Sunset Gateway to better reflect the theme of this development.
    How about Sun-Sam Three Site Monty?

    • madeleine huttenback

      The name of the development is incorrect on The Eastsider. It is called Junction Gateway. please see facebook/stopjunctiongateway.com

  10. I’m all for development but this is over development. Can you imagine the traffic and strain on the neighborhood parking for the 300 units and hotel? I live 1 block from these developments. Parking is bad enough. Rent is high in the neighborhood already so I’m sure that Frost/Chaddock will charge ridiculous amounts for rent making affordable living only for the well off.

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